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#1
Ask a Registrar / Re: Production Orders
December 04, 2025, 12:50:51 AM
Quote from: TransamEd on December 03, 2025, 01:20:12 AMCharles Turner above probably related to these special orders. (taken from a Microfiche system by a friend decades ago)  (R-model batch order shown here). I sent them back then to Howard. At that time he had not seen them at least.
The later changes were issued more in a handwritten style as supplements.

Yep, that's what I was referring to.  I have the full versions of those and others.
#2
Unfortunately no.  Depending on how close you want it to look like original, it will take searching for a mix of NOS and original parts to restore.  Suspension/steering-wise, there's just not that many accurate reproduction parts available.

If the car had any of the original suspension, it would be worth evaluating what is there and determining if any of it is good enough to restore. 
#3
Ask a Registrar / Re: Production Orders
November 30, 2025, 11:41:47 PM
SA placed bulk special orders to the San Jose assembly plant several times during '65 and '66 production years.  The first 3 cars were 2 orders (1 street car, 2 cars with specific deleted to be built as competition models).  Then there was the big order for the next 110 cars delivered to Venice in late Dec '64.  That included 2 orders: 15 comp builds and 90 street cars.  Those orders were modified from the first orders.  The next orders were placed for the next 100 cars, which would be delivered to LAX towards the end of March '65, another 100 cars.  Those orders were modified from the December orders.  Then there were subsequent orders. 

Howard would know better as to what changes were made to each bulk order.  I have copies of a couple of them.  They mostly note specific things like the SJ plant installing tires provided.  At some point there was an 'A' and 'B' base package defined which they referenced and then changes from those.
#4
Regional Shows and Events / Re: MCACN 2025
November 30, 2025, 01:57:45 PM
Nice meeting you Christophe!
#5
Concours Talk / Re: Concours Trailered
November 29, 2025, 10:04:27 PM
Division 1, it is optional to start the car during the operational check.  No penalty points for not starting.  In our concours guidelines, page 4.
#6
1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: MCACN quick photo shots 2025
November 28, 2025, 10:46:39 PM
Was hard to take a bad picture of the '65 lineup!

I have to admit I was impressed by the Yenko Stinger display!
#7
Concours Talk / Re: Concours Trailered
November 28, 2025, 10:41:07 PM
Concours Div 2 is judged the same no matter if the car is trailered or driven.  An operational check is required for Div 2.
#8
1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: 2025 MCACN Barn find 65 GT350
November 26, 2025, 09:54:53 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on November 26, 2025, 10:55:25 AMFYI, the pod was taken off the car, rocker stripe primer-ed over, and standard steering wheel installed by the long term owner because he didn't want people to know it was a 65 Shelby and attempt to steal the car out of his backyard. I am glad that his tactics worked on the likes of Charles Turner 40 years later!!!!   ;D

Got me good on that one! 
#9
1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: 2025 MCACN Barn find 65 GT350
November 26, 2025, 12:22:50 AM
Yes, believe that's right.  First time I walked by it, saw some Shelby parts, but no gauge pod or cutout on the dash and the hood was down, so I kept going.  Found out later it was a real '65 GT350.
#10
Concours Talk / Re: Shelby Headlight buckets real or fake
November 18, 2025, 12:28:05 AM
Top one in first pic looks like a repro.
#11
1968 Shelby GT350/500/500KR / Re: hardware
November 11, 2025, 12:15:10 AM
The 2 bolts that attach those to the rad support were usually the same used on the grille, hex cap bolt, disc washer and tapered end to thread into the hole.
#12
SAAC-51 / Re: SAAC-51
November 03, 2025, 07:29:54 PM
Quote from: Bill on November 03, 2025, 06:56:01 PMThat might not really be an option, as most (not all) SAAC concourse judges also judge the MCA concourse events making the Shelby class a blended combination.

The past 5 or so years, not so much, but it's true that many SAAC and MCA judges have judged with both organizations at some point.  The judging rules are similar, with the main differences being that SAAC points are weighted more towards originality and MCA is divided 50/50 for originality and workmanship/condition/cleanliness... and also, SAAC allows fractional deductions.
#13
Quote from: Daveb9 on October 24, 2025, 05:33:50 AMAny idea when the judging sheets for the Boss 429s will go out?

I'm working on them, no later than end of next week.
#14
For the 6th annual Indiana SAAC French Lick, IN show, we had 16 cars entered in the SAAC National judged classes.  Thanks to all the owners and judges that made the show a great success!



SAAC CONCOURS RESULTS
FRENCH LICK, IN - 2025

DIVISION I
Scott Skalitzky    1970 Boss 429     Premier
Jack/Debbie Bell 1967 Cobra 427SC Premier
Jack/Debbie Bell 1969 GT40     Premier
Ed Meyer    1969 Boss 429     Gold

DIVISION II
Gary Riley   1965 GT350   Premier
Harold Davis   1970 Boss 302   Premier
John Brown   1967 GT350   Gold
David Glover   1967 GT350   Gold
Glenn Randall   1969 GT500   Gold
Gene Thompson   1969 Boss 429   Gold
David Lebeis   1969 Boss 429   Gold
Lyle Essick   1969 Boss 429   Gold
Tom Gilliam   1969 GT350   Silver
Chuck Shelby   1970 GT500   Silver
Glenn Randall   1966 GT350   Bronze

SURVIVOR
Alex Myrman   1969 Boss 429   Gold

#15
Great show, many thanks to the Indiana SAAC club!  We had 16 concours cars in the SAAC judged classes.