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Ok...thanks guys !! Looks like I got them all in correct positions at least. Plugged everything in and NO CHANGE ! All running, parking and tail lights still coming on as soon as battery is connected .
Crazy part is that there are NO fuses in the fuse box !!  Where the F are they getting power   Guess we'll keep digging

So I just went out and disconnected the fuse block completely. Hooked up battery, No interior or frt running lights ,but rear side markers and tail lights still coming on !  This is frigging crazy !!

Have you confirmed that both sides (IE: both connectors when they are plugged in) of the "4 port" connector have the same wiring color combinations coming out of them. More concerned with the 3 female/1 male 4 port connector at this point, but maybe check the others while you are at it.

Too much unnecessary drama, Ford internal shows ICE through at least 2040


Bill

AC equipped cars should have the larger charging system as a mandatory option, thus the larger battery.
What does your build sheet say?


Bill

FU - so today we discover that the console wiring harness has had a new (replacement) 4 prong plug put on with some very sketchy soldering done. Will order a new one.
The other issue we discovered is that the fog light harness under dash plug may have a black and a black with yellow tracer wires reversed, the do not match up to the dash harness plug in the correct order. We are awaiting a Disher call back to verify this aspect.

A lot can happen under multiple owner situations. I just about pulled my hair out recently dealing with the main dash harness is 2642, a combination of my bad back, and eyesight issues finally had me drop it off at a restoration shop a month or so ago. They dove into the dash-electrical issues where I physically could not. Stopped up to see the car before the holidays and was shown that they found some poorly done non factory/shelby splices and enough melted/shorted wires, that a new "correct" harness was ordered. Once they are done with that, they will take care of the leaking "rebuilt" carb, and perhaps I'll have it on the road some time this summer. Irritating yes, but at least I know when it comes back, that everything will be as it should. As I stated earlier, sometimes you just need to take a step back, review every little detail to find the items that need fixing or replacing.

Hang in there.

Bill

Update.... no real luck so far tracking down this issue, BUT... i have discovered that when I disconnect the 10ga black wire of the fog light harness from the positive side of the solenoid, the lights DO go out. Should this wire go to the junction block instead ??

Are you working with all original harnesses?
I ask as 10+ years ago, working on a replacement of my center console gauge, I ran across a similar issue. Went through everything, sat down in the passenger seat and fixated on the wiring harness and plug for a moment, not really realizing at first that my subconscious was fixated on two wire colors switched in the rubber plug assembly leading from console to the dash harness. Finally saw it for my conscious self, that the two wires going from harness to harness were not lined up color wise. A simple switch (hidden splice), and all of a sudden, everything worked as it should.

Just food for thought and to give you another place to double check, even if the harnesses are original, somewhere along it's history, a wire or two might have been switched by mistake.

Hope you find this helpful.

Bill

I'm reminded of one of Jim Osborne's cars, a white GT500KR convertible, if my memory doesn't fail me, that caught fire while his son was driving it on the way to a show back in the '90's.  Seems the electric top motor shorted out and, before it was discovered, the car became engulfed in flames.  It was a total loss but they brought it back from the "dead" to full concours condition. It can be done!

Jim's was a 69, there was however a red 68 GT500KR convertible with a similar story. I believe sold at auction if memory serves me correctly and then properly treated, then restored several years ago. May even had an article in the SAAC quarterly....

Bill

Ok, another issue. Doors closed .. connect battery and instantly all the interior lights, side markers and rear tail ight come on. Not Head lights.  I have disconnected the brake light switch, no change, disconnected the turn signal switch harness, no change, just put on a brand new nos HL switch, no change !  Driving me nuts !
Anyone have any ideas? suggestions? known causes, solutions ? Guesses ? Exorcists ?

As always thanks a lot !!
Steve

Steve,

    Have you pulled the dash/gauge package off yet to look for previous owner melted/hacked wires and modifications?

I do most certainly feel your pain, as we trace and repair/replace such items on my 70 Shelby convertible. Stopped at the shop this past week and snapped a quick picture of the progress. Have just about everything sorted electric wise, NOS replacement turn signal switch is a bit quirky, and clock is out being restored, otherwise, everything but the AM side of the radio now works, hand written note shoved in dash actually pointed that item out, go figure. Not important, I'll send that out at a later date if I feel the need to listen to southern gospel...LOL

Bill

Arrived in SC in perfect condition.


Bill S.

I have recentlly purchased this 1967 shelby GT 500. I have been trying to get it for years and unfortunatly recently the older geltelman caught his garage on fire and it has been destroyed. I am olanning on rebuilding it. He owned it since 1978 and said it was in the registry if any info is available. I updated it with my info today. shelby vin 67411F4A02531. Any help on finding parts and vin tags apriciated. I ordered the deluxe Marti report today. thankyou for any help.

A truly worthy and ambitious endeavour, any chance you can post pictures as the chassis sits today?


Bill

Oh boy! Thanks for your continued input!

Somehow the front clip and the rear part got together!

Best case scenario someone made some creative repairs

So far your assessment looks spot on

I can remember a Boss 302 being repaired with a rear clip, base of front right windshield post across to left rear sail panel back in the 80's at an unnamed shop in the southern half of NJ.


Bill

Hoping to have the 70 GT350 convertible there, still at the shop awaiting replacement dash harness items.


Bill

Have a 70 Mach 1 that has Shelby stickers on front apron, and Shelby American plate, has 69 dash mounted ignition switch, holes that appear to be from 69 vin tag, but has 70 vin sticker
Vin# 0F02R482202

Bigtphx: Last Active: Today at 05:21:09 PM

Engine builder got back in contact and confirmed 10.5 compression ratio and suggested 38 degrees on the timing. Initial is at 6 BTC.

Made the carburetor changes yesterday but was unable to take for a test drive. The changes were that I installed a 5.5 power valve and changed primary jets to #78's. Increased primary nozzle to #37 and secondary nozzle to #35. Not sure if the weather is going to cooperate today as we are bracing for some bad thunderstorms moving into Central Florida.

Don
gt350bp

Don,

   Do you have a vacuum gauge hooked up for bench tuning?
How are you data-logging your timing while driving?
Has the carb been rebuilt, or is it new out of the box?

I ask, as an engine under load will behave differently than an engine being tuned in the garage, at rest so to speak.

Finally, any chance you can get it on a chassis dyno for real world tuning purposes? I learned quite a bit after a good friend bought a chassis dyno and used one of my old Cobra replicas (427 sideoiler) as a benchmark for tuning of the car and different carb configurations (IE: 7 or 8 different carbs, and as you, power valves, jets, etc).

Bill

I'm interested in knowing more but it seems odd that there are such bad pics and why the weird price? Why is it "1 of 1"? I tried the vin in a few decoders and it didn't check out. Thoughts? I'm local to the car and in the market but reluctant to call the guy.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/tucson-69-shelby-gt500-reduced-price/7454174100.html#

9F02R480284

Not the greatest of ads 

I see both Shelby 003 and Chuck Cantwell will be there on April 15th. Anyone going ?

The day is tight schedule wise, but my plan is to also be there, with or without an appropriate car.


Bill