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Shall I assume Fastback?

Then don't be surprised if they end up polished or chrome plated too.

I'm betting chrome   

So no hotel info until you signed up for the convention???

Thanks and to be clear all added after paintwork on car? What type of sealer around the plugs? Jeff, I hate to admit this but have a hard time just finding pics like you just posted on the concours site. I did searches this morning then looked at all the unrestored Dearborn 67 and 68 cars without any luck.

Yes added after the car was painted. Looks to be a dark colored chalking likely very dark gray or black in the picture in the top left where there is not allot of dust and dirt on it in sections

Thanks. I got a friend with a Dearborn 67 FB that is a top award winning car(NOT concours but pretty stock with a 40K paint job)). It was the World HQRs display car for a good part of the 67 model year highlighting new thing like the turn signal hood. 390 4 speed deluxe interior non GT. His mother in law worked in marketing for the guy who ordered the car. She bought it off the employee lot and he and his wife still have it.  At Autorama I noticed his floor plugs were primer red and looked to be upside down.

Maybe not the case here but up side down plug plates and painting red oxide are typically novice restorer mistakes regardless of year.

I'm sure that is what it is Bob as the car isn't concours restored but restored to be an ISCA winning show car. Car is near perfect but not in a concours way. Heck he took a car that won it's class at Detroit Autorama before and had a 40K paint job put on it with messaging the ill factory fitting body lines better. He runs headers, Hurst shifter etc in it. Moldings are chrome and not anodized. Little things like that. I noticed from the mirrors under his car at Autorama on Sunday the plugs looked like they were upside down and the floors was red oxide primered with the plugs in. Its a cool unique car with a great history that he might even be able to get over 200K for it but it is NOT for sale(A few high end classic car dealers wanted the car before). Look how his chromed rocker moldings just pop. To be clear though seeing his plugs primered and upside down I wanted to get the skinny on that. I think I'll talk him into removing them and doing them right because the underside will look better in my opinion.

70 is a little longer than 69 if i remember correctly

Like I say I'm still learning new things all the time. I didn't know the pins would be different between the 2 years.

Thanks and to be clear all added after paintwork on car? What type of sealer around the plugs? Jeff, I hate to admit this but have a hard time just finding pics like you just posted on the concours site. I did searches this morning then looked at all the unrestored Dearborn 67 and 68 cars without any luck.

Yes added after the car was painted. Looks to be a dark colored chalking likely very dark gray or black in the picture in the top left where there is not allot of dust and dirt on it in sections

Thanks. I got a friend with a Dearborn 67 FB that is a top award winning car(NOT concours but pretty stock with a 40K paint job)). It was the World HQRs display car for a good part of the 67 model year highlighting new thing like the turn signal hood. 390 4 speed deluxe interior non GT. His mother in law worked in marketing for the guy who ordered the car. She bought it off the employee lot and he and his wife still have it.  At Autorama I noticed his floor plugs were primer red and looked to be upside down.

PARTS HOUSES have been out of the 69 pin for a while...I used a 67-68 pin before fits fine just slightly different

may check with West Coast Cougar

or All Classic Motors http://www.allclassicmustang.com/1969MustangPartsNew.html

I'm now trying to find out if the 70 pin is different.

they look to be different. if you have a set you would sell let me know, thanks Jeremy

If I do they would be off a 70.

PARTS HOUSES have been out of the 69 pin for a while...I used a 67-68 pin before fits fine just slightly different

may check with West Coast Cougar

or All Classic Motors http://www.allclassicmustang.com/1969MustangPartsNew.html

I'm now trying to find out if the 70 pin is different.

grey rope caulk 69 dearborn

67 Dearborn? Same?

are 1969-70 convertible top alignment pins unique to 69-70? does anyone have a picture of them? if so does anyone have any they might part with, thanks Jeremy

NPD is out but it is a referenced 69 part number and 69 only? I don't know why 70 would be different so now I'll dig out my 70 top frame and see if they are different than the ones on my 69 top frame on my Shelby. https://www.npdlink.com/product/convetible-top-header-bow-alignment-pin/169877?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3Dalignment%252Bpin%252Bconvertible%252Btop%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D1969&year=1969

Yes I believe you will find that all three plants used the same provider

Thanks and to be clear all added after paintwork on car? What type of sealer around the plugs? Jeff, I hate to admit this but have a hard time just finding pics like you just posted on the concours site. I did searches this morning then looked at all the unrestored Dearborn 67 and 68 cars without any luck.

Are the floor drain plugs for a 67 Mustang and Shelby the same from all 3 plants? Hard to find pics for the Dearborn plant. Here is a pic of  a car Vern sold on BaT. 67 Shelby(SJ plant). Thanks

A repro 69/70 Shelby wheel has a updated DOT rim with a safety lip and and the aluminum center (which is exact)has a steel slug cast into it so that the center can be welded to the rim. The so called restored wheel has to use the updated DOT rim with safety lip and instead of rivets a cap screw is threaded into the the original center if it is not too brittle or corroded . Both repro and restored wheels are deficient in the same places compared to factory original . At the end of the day the restored wheels has almost the same repro parts in it as the repro  wheel. Consequently in concours nether wheel is any better then the other. Restoration cost is comparable to the cost of a new repro wheel. So the question is why would anyone buy a set of used 69/70 wheels and pay substantial money for them and then spend a substantial amount more to have them restored and end up with basically the same thing as the repro wheel ? If you buy a set of original 69 /70 Shelby wheels they had better be good enough as is to use for your purposes regardless if for show or pleasure driving.  If you have to restore the wheels you are dollars ahead to just buy the repro wheels to begin with because you will end up with the same thing without the extra expenditure of money.

Only those easily fooled by a snake oil salesman would restore their wheels now.

Notice on original cars the wiring for the trunk light has body color paint on it. Original bullet ends were taped to the inside of the trunk lid so on original paint cars there will be a witness area where the end was taped.

Don't be fooled by people selling repo fiberglass and comparing it to originals. Repo parts have no real value as opposed to original parts. Apples and oranges.