gt350 title

[6s1432]

Will the title on a hertz car designate gt350H or should it just be gt350?

[Bob Gaines]

Will the title on a hertz car designate gt350H or should it just be gt350?

Nether GT350H or GT350 are things that should be seen on a title. They are things that could be seen on a title however.  The Hertz past owned aspect does not have anything to do with the way car makes and models are typically identified on a state issued title. Many titles use Mustang, Shelby, GT350, Ford etc. to identify the make and model.  Each state is different on what they will allow. The state will typically put on what is already on a previous title . Changing anything is where the problems come in.  I suppose you could try but don't have high expectations. 

[6s1432]

In California There is "Make"and "Model" on the title. I am assuming that would be "Shelby" and "GT350"; The old Louisiana title says "Shel" and "350"

[Bob Gaines]

In California There is "Make"and "Model" on the title. I am assuming that would be "Shelby" and "GT350"; The old Louisiana title says "Shel" and "350"

That covers things IMO. The most important part is the Shelby VIN or Ford VIN . Everything else is secondary IMO.

[J_Speegle]

In California There is "Make"and "Model" on the title. I am assuming that would be "Shelby" and "GT350"; The old Louisiana title says "Shel" and "350"

Could possible have many different combinations especially if the pink slip is not the original or the car was imported into the state or registered later in life. Also how old the pink slip is. Only have spots on the form for  Make - Year of Model - Body Type Model 

 
Have examples I have scans  for the  Make section of a Calif pink slip over the years.

SHELB
SHLB
SHEL
GT350
FORD

Other states can have some more interesting words used on their forms from what I've got. At least in CA they were not as accepting for owners or dealers to change parts of the VIN as some other states over the decades 

[6s1432]

Thank you. This info is helpful...

[6s1640]

I have seen titles where the is a note for "previous rental" or something similar, but a 1966 vehicle might be too old for that record.  The earliest tiles may have had "rental" but was likely dropped with subsequent titles.

Best of luck

Cory

[98SVT - was 06GT]

The CA title for 843 (Hertz) said MAKE - GT350 MODEL - CPE (Coupe)
A friend owned a 68 350 (#111 if I remember) its title said COBRA for make and CPE for model.
What the title says is very dependent on what the dealer rep put on the paperwork when they went to register the car. Does anyone have an original Mfg Statement of Origin from 65-7 to see what Shelby listed for make? Each car got one but they were surrendered to DMV when the cars were first registered. Is Shelby Automotive listed as manufacturer on 68/70 cars or was it Ford.

6s1640 is correct "branded" titles weren't around in 1966. Those started around the late 90s when people were buying cars and finding out they were made up from 2 totals welded together. Now CA can issue a title marked to indicate anything that could affect the value - salvage - flood - rental - lemon buyback - theft recovery (after insurance payout and original title vacated) - odometer tampering - etc, Some states will allow removal of branding on the title if the car undergoes certain inspections. A car with a branded title can be hard to get insurance on.

[J_Speegle]

If you look at other years Shelby registered in Calif you get more oddities and the forms in some years list MAKE- MO - BODY TYPE MODEL

 Unfortunately you can sometimes find them with the Ford VIN in place of the Shelby number often done because the original tag was missing for some reason

[Bob Gaines]

If you look at other years Shelby registered in Calif you get more oddities and the forms in some years list MAKE- MO - BODY TYPE MODEL

 Unfortunately you can sometimes find them with the Ford VIN in place of the Shelby number often done because the original tag was missing for some reason

I am aware of many times a state office did not recognize Shelby as the MFG or the Shelby VIN. Those states offices would only recognize the Ford VIN. Of course this is dependent on the state office,the people working there and how versed they were on issues like that. A little bit of power goes to their head comes to mind . Of course  Shelby American is a legally a recognized car MFG in all states regardless of what some local license office worker says.Getting them to correct their mistake can be stressful. 

[98SVT - was 06GT]

I am aware of many times a state office did not recognize Shelby as the MFG or the Shelby VIN. Those states offices would only recognize the Ford VIN. Of course this is dependent on the state office,the people working there and how versed they were on issues like that. A little bit of power goes to their head comes to mind . Of course  Shelby American is a legally a recognized car MFG in all states regardless of what some local license office worker says.Getting them to correct their mistake can be stressful.

The problem is none of today's DMV workers were there in the 60s. They "know" that's a Mustang and Ford made the Mustang. It can be like talking to a brick wall to explain that SA was the actual manufacturer even though that is clearly stated on the tag.
Once in a great while a trip to DMV can be quick and easy. I had a Studebaker that was registered by the engine number - the engine was gone, Luckily Studebaker still has all their manufacturing records that list the engine, body and serial numbers. I took a copy of the card to DMV and they changed the title. The little wagon was a neat car. I think the dealer ordered it as a keeper for himself. Every available option was checked They went to the factory and took delivery.

[J_Speegle]

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Once in a great while a trip to DMV can be quick and easy. I had a Studebaker that was registered by the engine number - the engine was gone, ..................

Common issue in the 60-70's for older cars were were hot rodding since early cars were typically registered to the engine number and you needed to go down to DMV (hopefully before you jerked out the original engine if possible) to switch to the frame number after submitting the right paperwork. Did this on my first car a 40 For that I still own.

You could get a lot done your way at DMV if you were in there enough to build a relationship. If not they were a hammer.  Recall a 68 loosing its door tag after the owner made reference to the tag not being there for registration purposes (like it says on the tag) and the owner suggesting that the inspector should use the "secret" VIN's. Not sure why they didn't use the dash vin but the inspector took the door tag off and stamped it with a metal seal of some kind (this was Washington state) and handing it back to the owner. Not pretty

[557]

My 67 is titled in California as a ford gt500 with the Shelby vin.It was titled that way when I bought it in 82.

[98SVT - was 06GT]

My 67 is titled in California as a ford gt500 with the Shelby vin.It was titled that way when I bought it in 82.

Does it have the Z on the tag? Some say that denotes a car that was finished by Ford after they took over production (and trademarks, etc) from Shelby American in mid 67. It was possibly added to denote that warranty claims went against Ford and not the SA account.

[FL SAAC]

Will the title on a hertz car designate gt350H or should it just be gt350?

That depends on how it was originally titled by the first entity.

It may read FORD or possibly SHELBY.

But what ever it reads you are more than likely stuck with that distinction, as most  people at the DMV are robots. They just rubber stamp what ever is presented to them and do not make changes or deviate from what is presented to them.

Best of luck