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I just bought a Fluke 64 MAX IR Thermometer for measuring temps on my Shelby, and have a question. The laser dot does not appear to be centered in the measurement area. EX: If I'm 10 feet from an object, I get the most accurate reading when the laser dot is pointed 6" to the left of the object. If I'm only 5 feet away, that error cuts in half - to 3".I thought that dot was supposed to be in the center of the measurement area - not off to the side.

The first unit I received did this, so I sent it back for replacement. But the replacement is doing exactly the same thing.

I like Fluke for their reputation, sturdiness, and accuracy. So this is disappointing.

Am I expecting too much? Or should I send this unit back and try another brand?

Thanks,
Steve Sloan

[Barrett Jackson - Scottsdale]

silverton_ford

Please correct the following in the list that starts this topic.

Barrett Jackson - Scottsdale - January 17-25

Lot# 1316 should be 6S1618 which sold for $462,000 - NOT 6S119
Lot# 1346 should be 6S119 which sold for $423,500 - NOT 6S1618

Thanks
Steve Sloan

Bob, thanks for all your input on this topic. Especially for sharing your first-hand experience with this car and its owner when first judged. And your mention of the probable availability of black vs blue engine paint in December of 1965 is a good point that I had not considered.
Thanks,
Steve Sloan

Here's my take on the blue engine.

6S213 was sent from S.A. to McFaydens Co. (Omaha, NE) on 10/15/65. It was apparently used as a demonstrator. Among other warranty claims is an engine rebuild dated 12/17/65 with McFaydens shown as the owner at that time. (BTW, the engine had only 608 miles on it, and the block was NOT replaced.) The next warranty claim is dated 2/16/66 for leaking seals and gasket. Ralph Barbee is shown as the owner on that form. So, Ralph Barbee (the first owner) must have bought the car sometime between 12/17/65 and 2/16/66 – AFTER the engine rebuild. Ralph eventually sold to Jim Cruden, and is said to have told Jim the engine was always blue. There is supposed to be some proof of that, but if there is, I've never seen it.

So, we know all the 289HP engines were painted black at Ford when 6S213 was produced at San Jose. Yet we have an original owner saying the engine in 6S213 was always blue. How do we reconcile those two facts? Here's my theory...

The engine was black from San Jose, and from Shelby American; then painted blue during the warranty rebuild at McFaydens – BEFORE being sold to the first owner. So, whether it should be black or blue now is a matter of choice. It left Shelby American as black, but many people feel that the condition when sold to the first owner is the concours standard. I can see both sides of that. Maybe one of our concours judges will want to enlighten us on that issue.

BTW, I know the Registry shows Ralph Barbee as purchasing the car on 11/20/65, but Pardee tells me that can't be the correct date.

My two cents.
Steve Sloan

That's theft of a valuable item. Someone needs to go to jail.

#1 – Call a lawyer
#2 – Call the police

If nothing else, get it on record that you are the rightful owner, and that VIN plate has been stolen. Then, if it ever shows up, you can claim it.

Steve

Thanks, Todd.

Steve Sloan

From my experience, early 1966 GT350s (VINs below ~6S200) tend to have white inlet and outlet ducts. Later models (6S400+) seem to have black ones.

Thanks, Lisalee.

And thanks to all the others who continue to contribute information to this research.

Steve

5S383 sold 990 000 !!! that's a record for a street car , i guess 2 guys really wanted it !!
Few Cobra were bided less than that ...
6s...Carry over sold 418 000 it confirm the special desirable valuable  satus of those 252 cars.

I looked over that carryover car.  Someone had popped the VIN plate off thru one of the rivets.  There was no ford VIN under the plate.  The car said all VINs were verified so maybe that has an explanation.  But it would make me nervous.

Corey

I cannot say for certain if this is the case for 6S119, but many carryovers did not get the Ford VIN stamping in the usual place under the Shelby VIN tag. Rather, it got stamped further out on the inner fender apron, and is usually covered by the lip of the outer fender. I'm currently aware of 31 carryovers like that.

If you want more info about that, go to this web page and then search for the word "anomaly". You'll find a section titled, "Ford VIN Stamping Location Anomaly" with more details and an example picture.

https://carryovergt350.com/index.php/unique-features/

Having Fun Every Day,
Steve Sloan

In case he doesn't mention it in the video, that's 6S200.

Steve Sloan

Continuing thanks to all those offering their information to this survey.

Steve

Yee Ha! The mother lode. Thanks, Jeff, and everyone else contributing to this research.

Steve

Checked our car out when we first bought it to make sure they had ducts installed, definitely black

FL SAAC, Which car would that be, please?

Steve

Thank you to everyone who has replied so far. This is GREAT information!

GT350Lad, your 6S373 is currently the highest VIN car I'm aware of with white ducts. And the only non-carryover with white ducts. Well, so far at least. Hopefully we'll get a lot more participants in this survey.

Steve

[Ducts]

For reference, Shelby American called the (plastic?) fittings on each end of the brake hose "Inlet and Outlet Ducts." So that's the term I'm going to use. Some people refer to these as "ferrules."

See attached pictures. The white ducts are original from 6S087. The black duct is supposed to be original from a car in the 600s. I have info on a few cars from previous research efforts, and a pattern is emerging. It looks like Shelby American started out using white ducts and later transitioned to black. I'm trying to confirm that theory and possibly pin down when that occurred. Further data is needed.

If you know what color the original brake ducts are on any 1966 GT350, please let me know the VIN and color of the ducts.

Thanks for any info you can provide on this topic.

Having Fun Every Day,
Steve Sloan

A friend who is not on the forum asked me to post this. He found a 1970 Shelby hood on the side of the road. He will give the hood to the rightful owner. If you can identify the hood (color, condition, etc.) and roughly where it was lost, it's yours. Please contact me if you're the owner and I'll put you in touch with my friend. An email will work best as I rarely think about checking for PMs here on the forum. You can find my email address in my member profile.

Steve Sloan