69/70 convertible rear window crank trim plate

[69ragtop]

Hello, working to get the small details on my 69 factory correct. Was there a chrome trim collar affixed to the rear door panel behind the window crank on a 69 Shelby convertible. Mine does not have a trim collar but I see that some mustangs have one.

Thanks!

[Special Ed]

rear just a thin plastic washer and the big chrome was used on door panel crank if car has dual speakers stero.

[J_Speegle]

Hello, working to get the small details on my 69 factory correct. Was there a chrome trim collar affixed to the rear door panel behind the window crank on a 69 Shelby convertible.

Are you describing the quarter window crank rather than the door window crank? Just clarifying 

[69ragtop]

Thanks, yes rear qtr window crank. I see the friction washers are available. Pulled my rear trim panels off to replace convertible top pump lines. Qtr panels are brittle and splitting so may need to order replacements from Branda. They do not appear to be originals so no loss.

Also looks like my roll bar may be the three pc one from Branda, has tack welded couplings. Vinyl is ripped so another repair to tackle. Picked up a nice one peice used roll bar but not sure if its original or not, how does one tell. Grinding welds to replace is going to be a nightmare.

Thanks again!

[Bob Gaines]

Thanks, yes rear qtr window crank. I see the friction washers are available. Pulled my rear trim panels off to replace convertible top pump lines. Qtr panels are brittle and splitting so may need to order replacements from Branda. They do not appear to be originals so no loss.

Also looks like my roll bar may be the three pc one from Branda, has tack welded couplings. Vinyl is ripped so another repair to tackle. Picked up a nice one peice used roll bar but not sure if its original or not, how does one tell. Grinding welds to replace is going to be a nightmare.

Thanks again!

Branda roll bars were not typically drilled on top to install the surf board tie down loops. If not drilled then it is for sure a repro.   

[69ragtop]

Thanks Bob, good to know. The car is listed in the registry so I can only assume that it's mostly original. It has been completely restored but that was done before I purchased. The roll bar does have the surf board tie downs so maybe it is the real deal. Will post some pics and see where it leads.

[J_Speegle]

Thanks Bob, good to know. The car is listed in the registry so I can only assume that it's mostly original. ....

Not a good assumption IMO. Cars that are in the registry are not inspected for originality or correctness. In many cases it's a list of history as far as servicing, past "known" or reported owners from all sorts of sources. Currently cars listed may no longer exist, have been repaired to a great extent or have other unpublished, reported or documented conditions. 

[69 GT350 Vert]

Here's a photo of my 69 Shelby convertible roll bar.  I've been told it is original.  The green paint is a tell. 

[Bob Gaines]

Here's a photo of my 69 Shelby convertible roll bar.  I've been told it is original.  The green paint is a tell. 

Yes it is.

[69ragtop]

Pics attached, welds and bracket look half ass, but not sure if that's how it was dane. Verts pics show a bracket with a bolt which looks more factory. My roll bar has welded couplings which don't  look correct to me but bar does have the tie downs.

[69ragtop]

With a bit more digging I learned the factory 69/70 roll bar were bolted in not welded. It looks like mine was replaced at some point with a Branda.

[Coralsnake]

100% agree with Mr Speegle, the presence of the car in the Registry is not an indication of its originality or authenticity

[69ragtop]

Yes, so all though a VIN is listed in the registry that does not confirm the physical nature of the vehicle. The only thing I can tell is that my 69 is numbers matching according to the vin tags. Have the Marti report and all looks to match up. Purchased it in late 2024 from Bret at Cape cod Mustangs in MA. He had some records but nothing going back to when it was restored. Can't be sure what's new or original but believe the bones are authentic.

[Bob Gaines]

Pics attached, welds and bracket look half ass, but not sure if that's how it was dane. Verts pics show a bracket with a bolt which looks more factory. My roll bar has welded couplings which don't  look correct to me but bar does have the tie downs.

The picture of the green tube bar is bolted in like the factory. None of the welding and that splice section of the tube in your picture is factory.  I have drilled Branda bars before to make them appear more factory correct.The tie downs appear to have been drilled in the wrong spot on the bar in your picture.

[69ragtop]

Thanks Bob, is there a reason the roll bar tube and bracket were green, is it primer? As for the two bracket mounting holes in the sheet metal were they drilled specifically or did they use existing factory holes that just happen to be there. Will check mine tomorrow to see if I can locate the holes. If they're not there that would be concerning.