SAAC50 Concours Results

[TA Coupe]

Why was the huge shaded area underneath the grandstands not used for judging? You could probably fit thirty or forty cars underneath there. I have parked under there at various events and so have others


       Roy

[computerworks]

Good point, but..

1. Track management does not allow vehicles with gas in their tanks under the grandstand.

2. Too.much noise with track proximity

3. Complaints in the past of dust and debris under the seats.

[TA Coupe]

Good point, but..

1. Track management does not allow vehicles with gas in their tanks under the grandstand.


I have been to sears point, probably fifty or sixty times and have seen vehicles underneath there most of the times I've been there.

2. Too.much noise with track proximity

Didn't know that peace and quite was a requirement.

3. Complaints in the past of dust and debris under the seats.

Not even sure exactly what that means.

I did notice some judges laying on the asphalt, which made me wonder why there wasn't even a cheap harbor freight movers blanket on the ground for them to lay on. You should also consider investing in a set of race ramps which would make everything easier:

72" Race Ramps - 10.8 degree incline | Race Ramps https://share.google/Zr5mcwEBTq0QMjpo3

I'm sure that everywhen that is having their car judged, would not mind a small, five or ten dollar fee to helpe cover the cost of buying some of them. I have a set at home which I use and would have brought over.

       Roy

[TLea]

OK, I think I'll finally respond here. And yes, I was at saac 40 that Mike is talking about which was an indoor event but loading the cars was challenging because of the torrential rain outside. I have been coming to saac convention since 1974 and the weather and conditions were as nice this past weekend as I have ever seen. 80° sunshine and a beautiful light breeze all day, I was out judging for over eight hours and never broke a sweat once. I wouldn't want to be under the grandstands as we had that experience Indy it's rather miserable. The location was perfect. The weather was perfect, and the owners were incredible. There were two division one Cars and two cobra's out there as well as a GT 40 so I don't think anybody was particularly concerned about their cars being exposed to unfavorable conditions. I know people I've had mixed experiences in the past with judging, and I have been involved in those more times than I care to remember, but at some point, you gotta move out of the past and just recognize there's a lot of people working very hard here to make this all that it can be. Time to exercise the ghosts and demons from the past and move forward.

[CharlesTurner]

I did notice some judges laying on the asphalt, which made me wonder why there wasn't even a cheap harbor freight movers blanket on the ground for them to lay on. You should also consider investing in a set of race ramps which would make everything easier:

72" Race Ramps - 10.8 degree incline | Race Ramps https://share.google/Zr5mcwEBTq0QMjpo3

I'm sure that everywhen that is having their car judged, would not mind a small, five or ten dollar fee to helpe cover the cost of buying some of them. I have a set at home which I use and would have brought over.

We had movers blankets for judges to use, at least every team had one and there were several still in the wrapper that weren't used.

We judged under the grand stands at Indy and the noise physically wore us all out.  Might as well have been out in the sun the whole day, would have been equally worn out.

Race ramps are a good idea, but pose a safety risk and risk of damaging cars, SAAC doesn't need a lawsuit or insurance claim.  While some of our SAAC judges are a little slower getting up, we usually do fine with judging undercarriages on the ground.  At the French Lick show, we have the luxury of judging cars on a 4 post lift, so that's been an option the past few years and this coming Fall.

Appreciate all the feedback here. 

[TA Coupe]

I did not see the judging in person but this picture is why I made the comment that I did, because I can't see anything on the ground that they are laying on. My apologies for misinterpreting the picture. The caption for this picture said it was during the judging process.

     Roy

[edd1e22]

I helped judge Saturday. We had stacks of moving blankets which some chose to use but others didn't. While it was certainly a warm  day, it wasn't anywhere near as hot as it's normally for Sonoma.

[Mikelj5S230]

Yes, outdoor meets have their charms. I think it is all a matter of preference and, as we get older, a matter of convenience and comfort. Outdoor meets that have great weather are always remembered fondly, and those with pouring rain, heat, wind., etc., not so much. The problem for me is making a decision on a 2000 mile tow, and taking your chances on weather months ahead of time. I chose not to, and maybe in retrospect, I made a mistake. But it is my opinion you will get more cars if the meet is indoors. Yes, it costs more, but these 1/2 million $$+ cars are owned by people who can afford that.
The unused chassis inspection equipment reminds me of our chapter's outdoor regional judging meet outdoors on a hotel parking lot here in NM 15 years ago, when we were all younger and spryer. We purchased 2 dozen soft foam camping pads for the chassis judges. But we were tough, and nobody wanted to admit they needed one........   Ah, the joys of youth.

[68blk500c]

Mike, most of us know you have really nice cars.  Some of the rest of us do, too. 
We drove 3 days, each  way, to show our Div. I outdoors at SAAC-50, plus got down on the ground and judged at age 74. 
Register your car, now, for IN-SAAC French Lick Concours; haul it to this great, comfortable, indoor venue with on-lift judging.
It's that simple.
Really--it's that simple---just do it!
Don

[Special Ed]

French lick has 7 openings left.

[Mike Shally]

Judging sheets are scanned and were sent out this morning.

Please contact me if you did not receive your judging sheet:Mike Shally

We are also asking the owners to update and confirm their information for the trophies,
please include shipping address, name you want on trophy, serial number, description of car
(GT 350 or Boss 429 are examples)

Once the trophy is made it takes along time to have it remade and you have to pay to shipping back to the manufacture.



I also want to thank everyone who made this convention a great success

[Mikelj5S230]

Mike, most of us know you have really nice cars.  Some of the rest of us do, too. 
We drove 3 days, each  way, to show our Div. I outdoors at SAAC-50, plus got down on the ground and judged at age 74. 
Register your car, now, for IN-SAAC French Lick Concours; haul it to this great, comfortable, indoor venue with on-lift judging.
It's that simple.
Really--it's that simple---just do it!
Don

Thanks for the kind words Don, but it now appears I have a family conflict with the French Lick date. Maybe next time, French Lick has a great facility in most all ways, we had the NCRS National there in 2023, and will again in 2027. Sorry to miss it.

[Patryk]

A great showing of cars.