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8T02R203160-02423 on BaT

Started by Mikelj5S230, March 03, 2026, 05:45:38 PM

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shelbymann1970

Quote from: asrassoc on March 11, 2026, 02:34:16 PMFWIW, I have my own DC story related to the '69 Mach I I bought on BAT. Buyer beware if DC is involved at all.
I would also love to hear it and can be reached in my profile email address.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626

shelbymann1970

#61
What is frustrating with BAT is that balance of protecting the hobby and being honest and not negatively affecting an auction. So you have a lot of ass slapping there with false facts and labeling cars for what they are not. No car is perfect so I will not nit pick a car but decline to do it even though I see it all the time on bat . If a seller isn't saying concours gold and has  a nice driver why do people nit  pick it like it is being judged? I've said this before if a seller says 100 percent original metal and my eyes say different I will correct the seller. If he doesn't say anything I will not usually say it. Buyers should ask questions and I have before on behalf of buyers who don't want to comment but only bid. When I hear comments like survivor on this car it makes me SMH. Cheerleaders. Heck any car that survived almost 60 years is a survivor but some  survived much better than others. If anyone wants to point out anything on this car that is original and Is  nice enough to use on a SAAC judged car in a true survivor class let me know.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626

pbf777

#62
      O.K., I broke down and chose to (attempt) to kick my two cents in on the B.A.T. auction.  ::)

      My comment was, "That the car really didn't qualify as a true "survivor", it wasn't so "all original", there had already been some "fixer-upper" work done, if only to make it "driveable" (?), there are other unaddressed structural corrosion issues that just aren't going to go away, so as I see it, one probably should realize that the next logical step is a continued effort of a full restoration and the associated costs."

      [And in response to a previous commenter with quotations to associate] And you'll want to keep those "1(800) catalogs" handy as your going to need 'some' stuff, but hopefully just not so much as to end up with a "Chinese/Reproduction example!"   :)

       Well, as so often seems to be the case, B.A.T. chose not to post my comment, which I admit did contain some snidery, but only as a response to a posting that contained far more supercilious attitude than I had presented, and with less confrontational substance than many others; but those were deemed palatable!  >:( 

      And I new better than to (attempt to) participate, but I did it anyway!   ::)

      Scott.


shelbymann1970

Quote from: asrassoc on March 11, 2026, 02:34:16 PMFWIW, I have my own DC story related to the '69 Mach I I bought on BAT. Buyer beware if DC is involved at all.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-ford-mustang-200/.  This car?
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626

Coralsnake

Upon further review... more comments removed.

Including one I made that was very similar to the BaT administrator posting!

Shelby Historian. Check out theCoralsnake.com

I'm looking for 9F02M480004. Have you seen it?

Lincoln tech

Don't worry the new owner will find all this out soon , good luck to him  ::)
PNDM === Post Numbers Don't Matter :)

Coralsnake

I kind of wish we could hear what to say after they have some time with the car
Shelby Historian. Check out theCoralsnake.com

I'm looking for 9F02M480004. Have you seen it?

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Lincoln tech on March 11, 2026, 04:20:21 PMDon't worry the new owner will find all this out soon , good luck to him  ::)
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 11, 2026, 04:23:54 PMI kind of wish we could hear what to say after they have some time with the car
or after the first time they try to show the car in a unrestored/survivor class at a SAAC or MCA venue.  ;)
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Don Johnston

This is an excellent discussion. If a car is found by judges at a SAAC or MCA show not to be as described at the time of purchase, would the owner have any legal recourse against the seller and/or BAT or other auction for misrepresentation?   8)
Just nuts.

Coralsnake

I doubt there would be any legal recourse.
Shelby Historian. Check out theCoralsnake.com

I'm looking for 9F02M480004. Have you seen it?

pbf777

    Good B.S. salesmanship includes the ability to "imply", "suggest", or just "lead one to be under the impression of" some scenario, but without actually explicitly stating such.  So, have any of the principle actors in the marketing/sales effort actually stated "explicitly" that this vehicle "would" be accepted in the "Survivor Class" for "SAAC" or "MCA", or any other specifically named group?  The commenting by others in the peanut gallery, even if coerced, as by having "taken the bait" as set forth by the "Players", or if only of their own wild imagination, doesn't count; here the promoters allow others to speak for them, they just don't manage to intervene to "set the record strait"!  :o 

    "Legal recourse"?  Good luck with that!  But of course if you got the dough, just think Tucker!   ::)

    Scott. 

       


Coralsnake

#72
Just remember these two cars as auction ends

Yellow KR convertible for sale here n website could be bought at roughly the same price

Aca Blue 4spd AC fastback, rustfree Colorado car from original owner, original drivetrain, sold for roughly same price
Shelby Historian. Check out theCoralsnake.com

I'm looking for 9F02M480004. Have you seen it?

Coralsnake

Surprise! The guy that had issues with my "I hope someone doesn't get an incurable disease" post and thought it was funny that post was flagged, is from Dallas Fort Worth. Huh, the same area as Mr Dennis Collins. What a coincidence.

He also got flagged twice for his own comments.

Shelby Historian. Check out theCoralsnake.com

I'm looking for 9F02M480004. Have you seen it?

shelbymann1970

Quote from: asrassoc on March 12, 2026, 06:49:19 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on March 11, 2026, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: asrassoc on March 11, 2026, 02:34:16 PMFWIW, I have my own DC story related to the '69 Mach I I bought on BAT. Buyer beware if DC is involved at all.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-ford-mustang-200/.  This car?
I copied your winning link if the red car I thought after seeing your same name on the red car. I must not have taken on my phone. Thanks. I like when bat posters use the same name here. Mine is not exact but close.


nope. this one...... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-ford-mustang-mach-1-428-cobra-jet-43/
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626