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Ok Ok Time To Stir The Pot Just A Little.... Carpeted Package Tray....1965 GT350

Started by Vernon Estes, February 17, 2026, 05:41:30 PM

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Harris Speedster

Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 20, 2026, 10:07:09 AM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 20, 2026, 09:57:46 AMroad reptile,
 Now very curious about John's post....67 with Gold stripes??? Sounds like the Hertz plan that fell through but that should be in a new thread.
R.R.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I was skeptical about the gold stripes until I stripped the original paint off.
Made it a point to take pictures of a sanded area, layers are red oxide, grey sealer, black paint, gold paint, no excuses.
I have sent a few pics of that to a few select saac members, and a well known restorer/owner.
Something else, all scoops, rear tail light panel , in yellow marker, has my cars serial number on them. I put clear satin lacquer over the marks to retain them. Many more oddities about the car.
John
ON THAT VERY POINT OF DISCOVERIES;
One never knows when history can be changed by real pictures and docs.

I did just that in a 2 day world symposium at the Watkins Glen Race track Media Center, by finally presenting 27 of our 130 docs on Harris, SCCA and his 1935 supercar.
We waited decades to prove it without doubt so there would be NO arguments. This involves rules, formulas and regulations you guys still race under to this very day, 70 years after the fact !
 
Proud to say that after 26 years I finally found a picture of Juan Fangio, Sterling Moss, Ben Harris and Wacky Arnolt in the winners circle from 1952. Proudly added to the pics of Ben with Shelby, Gurney, Madsen Gregory Harley Earl and more legends, Best regards,

NEVER give up on research !
John
John, I would love to see some pictures of the stripes especially those that have the cars vin in the fiberglass . MY email is under my avatar name. Bob 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bob, I did email you several oics to document the oddities on #45.
Let me know you did get them, and post herein if you want.
I am an idiot on pasting pics etc !
John Y
Is this the first futuristic exotic in the world?
Size of an ac cobra, but built in 1935 !
https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/features-stories-and-photos/harris-fwd-speedster-the-story/?PHPSESSID=v4pqtv6hep4ff4rvalrc9qsnj7

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 21, 2026, 10:50:48 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 20, 2026, 10:07:09 AM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 20, 2026, 09:57:46 AMroad reptile,
 Now very curious about John's post....67 with Gold stripes??? Sounds like the Hertz plan that fell through but that should be in a new thread.
R.R.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I was skeptical about the gold stripes until I stripped the original paint off.
Made it a point to take pictures of a sanded area, layers are red oxide, grey sealer, black paint, gold paint, no excuses.
I have sent a few pics of that to a few select saac members, and a well known restorer/owner.
Something else, all scoops, rear tail light panel , in yellow marker, has my cars serial number on them. I put clear satin lacquer over the marks to retain them. Many more oddities about the car.
John
ON THAT VERY POINT OF DISCOVERIES;
One never knows when history can be changed by real pictures and docs.

I did just that in a 2 day world symposium at the Watkins Glen Race track Media Center, by finally presenting 27 of our 130 docs on Harris, SCCA and his 1935 supercar.
We waited decades to prove it without doubt so there would be NO arguments. This involves rules, formulas and regulations you guys still race under to this very day, 70 years after the fact !
 
Proud to say that after 26 years I finally found a picture of Juan Fangio, Sterling Moss, Ben Harris and Wacky Arnolt in the winners circle from 1952. Proudly added to the pics of Ben with Shelby, Gurney, Madsen Gregory Harley Earl and more legends, Best regards,

NEVER give up on research !
John
John, I would love to see some pictures of the stripes especially those that have the cars vin in the fiberglass . MY email is under my avatar name. Bob 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bob, I did email you several oics to document the oddities on #45.
Let me know you did get them, and post herein if you want.
I am an idiot on pasting pics etc !
John Y
John I got your pictures thank you. I didn't see the ones that were of the fiberglass parts with your cars Shelby VIN marked on them which was what I was particularly interested in.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

J_Speegle

Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 21, 2026, 10:50:48 AMBob, I did email you several oics to document the oddities on #45.
Let me know you did get them, and post herein if you want.
I am an idiot on pasting pics etc !

John I invite you to PM me or another and then you can email them and have one of us post them to the thread or start a new one focused on this subject. Likely the best way to share and narrow the focus of the discussion. Would be interesting to see if the hand writing and other details are similar in one way or another

Your stuff - your choice- Thanks
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and SAAC Concours Advisor

Vernon Estes

Junk dealer and the oldest young guy you will ever know.

Harris Speedster

Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 21, 2026, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 21, 2026, 10:50:48 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 20, 2026, 10:07:09 AM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 20, 2026, 09:57:46 AMroad reptile,
 Now very curious about John's post....67 with Gold stripes??? Sounds like the Hertz plan that fell through but that should be in a new thread.
R.R.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I was skeptical about the gold stripes until I stripped the original paint off.
Made it a point to take pictures of a sanded area, layers are red oxide, grey sealer, black paint, gold paint, no excuses.
I have sent a few pics of that to a few select saac members, and a well known restorer/owner.
Something else, all scoops, rear tail light panel , in yellow marker, has my cars serial number on them. I put clear satin lacquer over the marks to retain them. Many more oddities about the car.
John
ON THAT VERY POINT OF DISCOVERIES;
One never knows when history can be changed by real pictures and docs.

I did just that in a 2 day world symposium at the Watkins Glen Race track Media Center, by finally presenting 27 of our 130 docs on Harris, SCCA and his 1935 supercar.
We waited decades to prove it without doubt so there would be NO arguments. This involves rules, formulas and regulations you guys still race under to this very day, 70 years after the fact !
 
Proud to say that after 26 years I finally found a picture of Juan Fangio, Sterling Moss, Ben Harris and Wacky Arnolt in the winners circle from 1952. Proudly added to the pics of Ben with Shelby, Gurney, Madsen Gregory Harley Earl and more legends, Best regards,

NEVER give up on research !
John
John, I would love to see some pictures of the stripes especially those that have the cars vin in the fiberglass . MY email is under my avatar name. Bob 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bob, I did email you several oics to document the oddities on #45.
Let me know you did get them, and post herein if you want.
I am an idiot on pasting pics etc !
John Y
John I got your pictures thank you. I didn't see the ones that were of the fiberglass parts with your cars Shelby VIN marked on them which was what I was particularly interested in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Bob, you missed the crayon yellow numbers 45 on the pieces I sent you ?
John
Is this the first futuristic exotic in the world?
Size of an ac cobra, but built in 1935 !
https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/features-stories-and-photos/harris-fwd-speedster-the-story/?PHPSESSID=v4pqtv6hep4ff4rvalrc9qsnj7

Road Reptile

Hey to Vern and all,
After a little checking it appears that Acme was the company that did the 1 and only vinyl top for
Shelby in 1966 and they are still in business!!!! Might be worth contacting them about any work done for Shelby in other years. Someone made Spare wheel covers and that may lead to carpet. Good luck
R.R.

CSX4781

Looks like a company named FITCO made the spare tire cover (S1MS-47042-A).

Dave

J_Speegle

Quote from: Road Reptile on February 21, 2026, 08:04:23 PMHey to Vern and all,
After a little checking it appears that Acme was the company that did the 1 and only vinyl top for
Shelby in 1966 and they are still in business!!!! Might be worth contacting them about any work done for Shelby in other years. Someone made Spare wheel covers and that may lead to carpet. Good luck
R.R.

Yes they were the supplier for 6S001 Don't think that will lead anywhere for the carpeting but might be worth a check. Not sure if anyone from that ear is left at the company either. 

In Calif you could find fastbacks with Acme vinyl tops up and down the state where a representative or one jobber traveled the state installing them on new Mustangs and other cars at dealerships. Have known a few original fastback owners that bought their cars with vinyl tops plus have collected data for others through the early 70's.  They were the go to supplier for headliners from the 60's on before some of the more recent companies you see in catalogs today. Had them do a custom cloth headliner for one of my custom cars in the 80's
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and SAAC Concours Advisor

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 21, 2026, 07:11:22 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 21, 2026, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 21, 2026, 10:50:48 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 20, 2026, 10:07:09 AM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 20, 2026, 09:57:46 AMroad reptile,
 Now very curious about John's post....67 with Gold stripes??? Sounds like the Hertz plan that fell through but that should be in a new thread.
R.R.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I was skeptical about the gold stripes until I stripped the original paint off.
Made it a point to take pictures of a sanded area, layers are red oxide, grey sealer, black paint, gold paint, no excuses.
I have sent a few pics of that to a few select saac members, and a well known restorer/owner.
Something else, all scoops, rear tail light panel , in yellow marker, has my cars serial number on them. I put clear satin lacquer over the marks to retain them. Many more oddities about the car.
John
ON THAT VERY POINT OF DISCOVERIES;
One never knows when history can be changed by real pictures and docs.

I did just that in a 2 day world symposium at the Watkins Glen Race track Media Center, by finally presenting 27 of our 130 docs on Harris, SCCA and his 1935 supercar.
We waited decades to prove it without doubt so there would be NO arguments. This involves rules, formulas and regulations you guys still race under to this very day, 70 years after the fact !
 
Proud to say that after 26 years I finally found a picture of Juan Fangio, Sterling Moss, Ben Harris and Wacky Arnolt in the winners circle from 1952. Proudly added to the pics of Ben with Shelby, Gurney, Madsen Gregory Harley Earl and more legends, Best regards,

NEVER give up on research !
John
John, I would love to see some pictures of the stripes especially those that have the cars vin in the fiberglass . MY email is under my avatar name. Bob 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bob, I did email you several oics to document the oddities on #45.
Let me know you did get them, and post herein if you want.
I am an idiot on pasting pics etc !
John Y
John I got your pictures thank you. I didn't see the ones that were of the fiberglass parts with your cars Shelby VIN marked on them which was what I was particularly interested in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Bob, you missed the crayon yellow numbers 45 on the pieces I sent you ?
John
Thank you.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Vernon Estes

Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 22, 2026, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 21, 2026, 07:11:22 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 21, 2026, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 21, 2026, 10:50:48 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 20, 2026, 10:07:09 AM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on February 20, 2026, 09:57:46 AMroad reptile,
 Now very curious about John's post....67 with Gold stripes??? Sounds like the Hertz plan that fell through but that should be in a new thread.
R.R.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I was skeptical about the gold stripes until I stripped the original paint off.
Made it a point to take pictures of a sanded area, layers are red oxide, grey sealer, black paint, gold paint, no excuses.
I have sent a few pics of that to a few select saac members, and a well known restorer/owner.
Something else, all scoops, rear tail light panel , in yellow marker, has my cars serial number on them. I put clear satin lacquer over the marks to retain them. Many more oddities about the car.
John
ON THAT VERY POINT OF DISCOVERIES;
One never knows when history can be changed by real pictures and docs.

I did just that in a 2 day world symposium at the Watkins Glen Race track Media Center, by finally presenting 27 of our 130 docs on Harris, SCCA and his 1935 supercar.
We waited decades to prove it without doubt so there would be NO arguments. This involves rules, formulas and regulations you guys still race under to this very day, 70 years after the fact !
 
Proud to say that after 26 years I finally found a picture of Juan Fangio, Sterling Moss, Ben Harris and Wacky Arnolt in the winners circle from 1952. Proudly added to the pics of Ben with Shelby, Gurney, Madsen Gregory Harley Earl and more legends, Best regards,

NEVER give up on research !
John
John, I would love to see some pictures of the stripes especially those that have the cars vin in the fiberglass . MY email is under my avatar name. Bob 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bob, I did email you several oics to document the oddities on #45.
Let me know you did get them, and post herein if you want.
I am an idiot on pasting pics etc !
John Y
John I got your pictures thank you. I didn't see the ones that were of the fiberglass parts with your cars Shelby VIN marked on them which was what I was particularly interested in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Bob, you missed the crayon yellow numbers 45 on the pieces I sent you ?
John
Thank you.

At this point I'm pretty sure I'm just talking into an empty room,....but....

Quick question: Does this forum subsection have a moderator?

Kinda feels like all this non-related content could be moved to a separate thread...... don't ya think?

Kind regards,
Vern
Junk dealer and the oldest young guy you will ever know.

s2ms

Agreed, but then again....you did say you wanted to 'Stir The Pot'  ;)
Dave - 6S1757

Vernon Estes

Junk dealer and the oldest young guy you will ever know.

tesgt350

Quote from: J_Speegle on February 21, 2026, 09:33:34 PM
Quote from: Road Reptile on February 21, 2026, 08:04:23 PMHey to Vern and all,
After a little checking it appears that Acme was the company that did the 1 and only vinyl top for
Shelby in 1966 and they are still in business!!!! Might be worth contacting them about any work done for Shelby in other years. Someone made Spare wheel covers and that may lead to carpet. Good luck
R.R.

Yes they were the supplier for 6S001 Don't think that will lead anywhere for the carpeting but might be worth a check. Not sure if anyone from that ear is left at the company either. 

In Calif you could find fastbacks with Acme vinyl tops up and down the state where a representative or one jobber traveled the state installing them on new Mustangs and other cars at dealerships. Have known a few original fastback owners that bought their cars with vinyl tops plus have collected data for others through the early 70's.  They were the go to supplier for headliners from the 60's on before some of the more recent companies you see in catalogs today. Had them do a custom cloth headliner for one of my custom cars in the 80's

Back in the 80's I owned a 1970 Red Fast Back with White Interior and a full White Vinyl Top.