67400F5A01128 on BAT

[shelbymann1970]

This BaT dealer does nice photos and videos but avoids answering questions directly and always has a lot of (related?) cheerleaders in the comments.  I've heard 95% of their BaT auctions sell to buyers that never comment, ask a question or visit the car for an inspection.  I guess social media promotion does wonders.  Does the car have the correct engine/date code, carburetor and SPEC rear end?

Well said.

[shelbymann1970]

I have a good friend who is dying and has about 3 weeks left. He only buys good cars for his collection. I had him send me some pics of his cars he wanted to sell before he died. He sold his mancave building to an old friend. So far he has sold his 71 original paint 455HO 4 speed 20K mile Trans am. 2 others sold to a guy in the Detroit area who is the king of Trans Ams so to speak all going real quick as the 71 TA went back to the prior owner. He had 2 cars left. A 72 red GTO 455 HO M22 4 speed with the WW5 package. over 50 percent original paint. Absolutely a beautiful show looking car in the pics. Well when we talked he said it was a "20 footer" with some paint issues on the original paint on the roof but still showed well. My point? Many cars on BAT have looked much better because the "fancy" pictures have portrayed them wrong. A guy named Bruno near Toronto bought the Goat the other day and will race it at the pure stock nationals In Stanton Mi  where he races rare Chevy and Pontiac iron along with his kids.  His one car left is his 69 Ford Cobra. 32K miles and original paint with one fender repainted because a prior owner scratched it. Anyone interested in a MCACN survivor candidate   the car is for sale for around 60K USD(my friend lives in Windsor). He said 60-70K. He has went so far as to replace a heater hose clamp with a date coded original one and planned on doing a MCACN show in the future but cancer got in the way. Gary

[Coralsnake]

He must be talking about another "Pete"?

I usually don't comment on the 1967s.

 

[roddster]

  I read the Bat listing, down to the comments.  I'm not confused, but why are the many commenters?  Somehow, the car got a 390 incorrect engine to get it mobile.  THEN a non-original 428 was built and installed.  So, why the concern over the VIN stamp being on the engine?  Didn't anyone read that?

[Coralsnake]

I think that car is actually on its third engine?

The conversations on numbers is always fun.

On the 1968 big blocks it identifies one head on a good day. Thats it. Everything else could be from anywhere.

The stripe conversations are also very entertaining.

[pbf777]

This BaT dealer does nice photos and videos but avoids answering questions directly and always has a lot of (related?) cheerleaders in the comments.  I've heard 95% of their BaT auctions sell to buyers that never comment, ask a question or visit the car for an inspection. 

    And one of their BAT listings which I had shown "some" interest in by calling the dealership to inquire as to perhaps what kind of value they were placing on the item as being auctioned, at which point I about fell out of my chair; but it "SOLD" for about 1/6th (closer to a reasonable market value  ) of what they wanted for it of the floor; but then they called me three more times after the BAT auction had ended, still looking for the "big money"! 

    Don't believe everything is as presented! 

    Scott.

[TLea]

Everyone who comments on BAT is an expert didn't you know?

[Mikelj5S230]

Pete, Mike Johnson(used to have a lime god 68 KR that Tim did and a Corvette judge and 65 owner) asked for your insight there as he is BigTanks and you havew not responded. Shame on you  .

I never expect a reply from Pete. He is a very important and busy man, I am just a peon who knows nothing.

[Coralsnake]

I just try to stay in my lane. Everyone has something to contribute

[8T03S1425]

Hey guys, please help me understand something about VINs on '67 GT500s. My sweet spot is in and among the '68 Shelbys.

This BAT auction shows the Ford VIN on the inner fender and the Marti Report. The inner fender stamping and the transmission stamping show it's a "Q" code. I didn't think that Ford used "Q" or "R" in 1967. The Marti shows the Ford VIN with an "S" code, in the VEHICLE ORDER IMAGE header coding and "Q" in the SERIAL NUMBER INFORMATION box. Using the colloquial, "Whaz up wit dat?" Is someone messing with potential buyers?

The car seems to utilize CJ exhaust manifolds and exhaust pipes as well. That seems like a nice day 2 mod, so maybe the engine is a CJ with the dual quad intake and carbs.

It looks like a nice car being bought for concours/near concours/kinda near concours money.

Steve

[Coralsnake]

Just wait until you find the Q code 1968s your head will explode

Ford and Shelby codes are not always the same

[8T03S1425]

So, my gut feeling is there's sumptin fishy in Denmark. This car is bid up to $200k and nobody questioned the VIN. It hurts to watch this happen in broad daylight, in a venue that is viewed by some knowledgeable folks.

A part of me wants to ask the seller to square my possible misunderstanding. Another part of me kinda wants to see how this flushes out and then see if my instinct was correct.

I can't save the world. It's tough enough to live in it.

[Road Reptile]

Hi,
Just a suggestion to explain why 67 codes are confusing. Get a registry for 1967 cars from the club.
Most likely the simple way to learn. Kevin Marti has a book "BY THE NUMBERS" Which would be really good as a reference for several years of FORD production.
Hope this helps out.
R.R.

[SCJSTU]

I think that car is actually on its third engine?

The conversations on numbers is always fun.

On the 1968 big blocks it identifies one head on a good day. Thats it. Everything else could be from anywhere.

The stripe conversations are also very entertaining.

Actually car is on its 4th engine

428 from factory, 427, 390, now period correct 428

[8T03S1425]

Thank you for your input and suggestion on helpful reference materials.

Yeah, I'm aware that the '67 Shelby Mustang VINs are different than the '67 Ford Mustang VINs. And yes, I agree that '67 Shelby VINs can be confusing. I also have all the registries. Among my problems, I'm not where they are.

This '67 Shelby's VIN is deciphered on BAT thanks to Brian from The Shelby Research Group (SRG) and the seller for posting it. If I'm not mistaken, the SRG Report does not reference this Shelby by the Ford VIN.

I respectfully ask you to please reread my original question, and review the important details of this online auction. It pertains to something contradictory shown on the Marti Report. The Marti Report (MR) shows a "Q" code on one part of the MR and an "S" code in another section. A '67 Shelby GT500 was built with a 428 SI engine, not a 428CJ "Q" code. I think the Marti Report, and the vehicle Ford VIN, as stamped on the transmission, may have been altered. I was looking for this forum to confirm or refute my suppositions.

Maybe it has, and I not picking up on what the forum is puttin' down.

I hope this explanation helps you understand my question.