Production Orders

[S7MS427]

R.R.,

I do have a copy of that book (signed by both authors, btw) and am familiar with the production issues that Shelby encountered during the year. My question really centers on what paperwork was used, whose form was it, who filled it out or was it computer generated, and that sort of thing? In short, the work flow. I know that there are two sides to this issue, the Ford side and the SA side. So how did the orders come into Ford so they could get the basic car built on the assembly line prior to shipment to SA?  I can't believe that this process did not mirror what Ford had already established. On the SA side, how were the workers instructed as to which cars got which options (as few as they may have been). In 1967, they had the production order. Was there something similar in use for 1965 and 1966? Again, I wouldn't think the the process would change that much year to year and that a new process just appeared for the 1967 model year. Part of the problem is that I've never seen copies of 1965 and 1966 production forms (including DSO) other than what Jeff posted here (thanks, Jeff!).

So what is out there that most of us have never seen? What were the actual documents that were used to build the cars we all love so much? Who did the ordering (Ford, SA, dealer, or some combination thereof), the data entry, the sign-offs, etc.?  That is, the work flow that was part of the daily grind of building new cars. Thanks and I look forward to everyone's response.

[FL SAAC]

For the 1966 black and gold cars, was it the same ordering process as the regular GT350?

Who originated the order Hertz to Ford to Shelby?

Or .....

Only 1 order for those - 1,000 units black, gold LeMans stripes, auto, magnum wheels.

 Hertz bought the cars from SA. SA was the manufacturer.

SA ordered the KD cars from Ford.

The production problems account for the other colors.

Hertz wanted cars - SA was slow - CS snake oiled them into taking some in stock colors to speed up the delivery.

Now - the SA cars went back to Ford dealers for resale.

What was the agreement/process for that.

The Hertz contracts then had a buyback clause with a set value.

 This was before Hertz opened their own dealers.

Gotcha, that ONE order for the total amount of Hertz cars ordered, who would have a copy of that?

Mr. Pardee?

[Road Reptile]

Hi Roy,
From the Ford Side Shelby was set up as a fleet type account. He had several people on his team..Ray Geddes and Gary Nuznoff were key players in the ordering process and were with Shelby right from the beginning of S.A.I. Both were from Ford and were key in planning the Shelby Build each year,as was Chuck Cantwell.
 
On the Shelby side of production they must have had forms to follow and I seriously doubt any were computer type. Howard will hopefully be able to help with this.
R.R.

[J_Speegle]

So what is out there that most of us have never seen? What were the actual documents that were used to build the cars we all love so much? ..........

Would that not just be the Add/delete (Special Vehicle Order and Parts Specifications) and the Special Order forms (used for some of the builds like the convertibles) sheets?


Special Order form states under the title - Combined sales order and manufacturing authority to produce vehicles as scheduled

Especially in 67 we find the add/delete sheets in most of the cars so they IMO were likely used the same during 66 production though workers were more mindful about throwing them away rather then tossing/leaving them in each car. Just like build sheets San Jose workers left fewer in the finished cars - often a result of how they used them differently at the sub assembly stations when compared to Dearborn and Metuchen

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Charles Turner above probably related to these special orders. (taken from a Microfiche system by a friend decades ago)  (R-model batch order shown here). I sent them back then to Howard. At that time he had not seen them at least.
The later changes were issued more in a handwritten style as supplements.

http://www.ponysite.de/R-SHELBYorder_ponysitede.jpg

http://www.ponysite.de/handwritten_R-Shelby_ponysitede.jpg

[J_Speegle]

Charles Turner above probably related to these special orders. (taken from a Microfiche system by a friend decades ago)  (R-model batch order shown here). I sent them back then to Howard. At that time he had not seen them at least.
The later changes were issued more in a handwritten style as supplements.

Those are both 65 examples but yes that is the same forms used during 66 production like I was referring to that I've seen and mentioned in reply #18.  Even the later groups used the same long typed forms but there seems to be handwritten possibly quick notes of changes also produced through the production period at San Jose when needed for one reason or another. Seen very few of the hand written notes in comparison to the add /delete sheets. I haven't in fact seem a hand written change order produced during 66 production come to think of it.

[CharlesTurner]

Charles Turner above probably related to these special orders. (taken from a Microfiche system by a friend decades ago)  (R-model batch order shown here). I sent them back then to Howard. At that time he had not seen them at least.
The later changes were issued more in a handwritten style as supplements.

Yep, that's what I was referring to.  I have the full versions of those and others.