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67 Magstar Question

Started by capecodmustang.com, July 28, 2025, 11:35:30 AM

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TLea

Quote from: Bob Gaines on July 28, 2025, 11:59:59 AMMost very early mag star cars did not have a mismatch from the factory but some did. The factory or dealer was instructed to tell the owner to buy a auto parts store additional lug wrench for the jack and they would be compensated.This mismatch situation was quickly corrected.
Not sure why anybody reasonable would consider that snarky but opinions vary
I think I am pretty verse in judging rules. The first scenario as you stated "some did" would be as delivered to the first owner. Second scenario (and I may be remembering campaign letter wrong) I believe the dealers were instructed to replace the wrong wrench with 4 way. Again as delivered to customer.
I'm not saying we open the doors for this but if under the customary "anything interesting or unusual you want to tell us about your car?" an original owner told us that what is what was in the trunk I would have to give it consideration. The funny thing about jacks and wrenches most people never use them and wouldn't even know there was a mismatch.

J_Speegle

Now I need to look at that campaign letter and go over it. Must have missed that one.
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and SAAC Concours Advisor

capecodmustang.com

#17
Tim's words...

 "The funny thing about jacks and wrenches most people never use them and wouldn't even know there was a mismatch."


Well said Tim
I own car #8, #11 and #61.
The early cars are more complicated.
Only recently did I discover that the jacks's were mismatched or not SJ jack's at all.

Getting educated quickly...!

Bret

JD

#18
Welcome to EARLY '67 GT350's... ;-) - seems the first batch, DSO2505, were putting theory into practice and adjusting the procedures and parts for production.
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

capecodmustang.com

Quote from: JD on July 30, 2025, 10:23:21 AMWelcome to EARLY '67 GT350's... ;-) - the first batch, DSO2505, were putting theory into practice and adjusting the procedures and parts.


Thank you JD...
It appears I'm looking for a SJ jack with the 3/4 bolt ...
I found a lug wrench on Ebay...


Bob Gaines

Quote from: capecodmustang.com on July 30, 2025, 10:30:37 AM
Quote from: JD on July 30, 2025, 10:23:21 AMWelcome to EARLY '67 GT350's... ;-) - the first batch, DSO2505, were putting theory into practice and adjusting the procedures and parts.


Thank you JD...
It appears I'm looking for a SJ jack with the 3/4 bolt ...
I found a lug wrench on Ebay...


I would highly suggest to anyone looking for a 3/4 drive jack that you remove the 13/16 screw drive and have it machined to 3/4 and save yourself time and stress. You will find 20 3/4 lug wrenches (and you know how hard those are to find) to every one 3/4 drive jack. I know people that have been looking for years.  Of course they are out there but you just have to decide if you have enough luck and determination to come across one and be that one guy.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

capecodmustang.com

Quote from: Bob Gaines on July 30, 2025, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: capecodmustang.com on July 30, 2025, 10:30:37 AM
Quote from: JD on July 30, 2025, 10:23:21 AMWelcome to EARLY '67 GT350's... ;-) - the first batch, DSO2505, were putting theory into practice and adjusting the procedures and parts.


Thank you JD...
It appears I'm looking for a SJ jack with the 3/4 bolt ...
I found a lug wrench on Ebay...


I would highly suggest to anyone looking for a 3/4 drive jack that you remove the 13/16 screw drive and have it machined to 3/4 and save yourself time and stress. You will find 20 3/4 lug wrenches (and you know how hard those are to find) to every one 3/4 drive jack. I know people that have been looking for years.  Of course they are out there but you just have to decide if you have enough luck and determination to come across one and be that one guy.


That's good advice Bob....

shlby66



 I was the buyer of a brand new 1967 Shelby GT350, #01111, from Rich Ford, in Alburquerque,
 NM, in May, of 1967. Imagine my surprise, when I opened the trunk and was looking over the     
 spare tire and equipment, and discovered, there was "no" lug wrench!

 When I informed Rich Ford of this shortcoming, I was instructed to go buy the proper tools 
 for changing a tire and submit the receipt for reimbursement. Which I did. It was the 
 first of a number of issues I encountered while owning a 1967 Shelby GT350.   


shlby66


 I was the original buyer of a 1967 Shelby GT350 (# 01111) from Rich Ford in Albuquerque, NM
 in May of 1967. Imagine my surprise, as I was looking in the trunk at the spare tire and tire
 changing equipment and realized there was "no" lug wrench.

 The people at Rich Ford instructed me to go purchase the tools to change a tire and bring 
 them the receipt, which I did. This was the first issue, of a number of them, that I   
 encountered, during my ownership of this 1967 GT350.

 Doug C.


JD

Quote from: shlby66 on July 30, 2025, 04:07:24 PMI was the original buyer of a 1967 Shelby GT350 (# 01111) from Rich Ford in Albuquerque, NM
 in May of 1967. Imagine my surprise, as I was looking in the trunk at the spare tire and tire
 changing equipment and realized there was "no" lug wrench.

 The people at Rich Ford instructed me to go purchase the tools to change a tire and bring 
 them the receipt, which I did. This was the first issue, of a number of them, that I   
 encountered, during my ownership of this 1967 GT350.

 Doug C.



Hello Doug, thanks for posting on car #1111.

The current SAAC registry list it as having had Mag Star wheels, is that what was on the car?

Also, it seems as though it had a jack but just no lug wrench?? 

If so, by chance do you remember if the nut on the jack was the same as the Mag Star lugs 3/4" or was it a 13/16" nut on the jack?

JD
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

roddster

  I'm just going to add in that when I bought #0036 in 1971 there was no jack handle.  I just figured that the 2nd owner lost it somewhere.  I had to figure that out a couple of months after I bought it.  Didn't even use the jack, I had a floor jack at home and all my Craftsman tools.

shlby66


 Hi JD,

 Yes, there was a jack, but no jack handle/lug nut wrench.

 I went to Sears and bought 2, 1/2" DRIVE SOCKETS. One for the jack and one for the lug
 nuts. I also bought a 12" 1/2" drive extension and a 1/2" drive, 2-foot breaker bar.
 Rich Ford reimbursed me when I presented the receipt.

 Yes, it was delivered with Mag Stars. And that turned into another learning experience.

 A fellow worker pointed out I was missing a lug nut. Back to Rich Ford to buy another   
 one. A number of weeks later, I discovered, 2 more missing lug nuts. That's when I     
 really looked them over and realized they were not shouldered lugs, but tapered ones.
 
 So out comes the torque wrench and quite a few were loose. From that point on, every
 Saturday morning, all lugs were re-torqued after the wash job. I personally know two
 Shelby owners, that had a Mag Star come off while driving. The first one did serious
 damage. Fortunately for the second one, his fell off as he turned into his driveway.

 Funny, when he bought the '67 with Mag Stars, I told him about my experience and
 cautioned him about checking the torque regularly on the Mag Stars. He called me right
 after his almost disaster and he didn't believe that would happen and wished he had
 listened.

 AS for me, I do recall, at least 4 or 5 more surprises waiting for and my '67 GT350.

 Doug C.


TLea

Quote from: shlby66 on July 30, 2025, 04:07:24 PMI was the original buyer of a 1967 Shelby GT350 (# 01111) from Rich Ford in Albuquerque, NM
 in May of 1967. Imagine my surprise, as I was looking in the trunk at the spare tire and tire
 changing equipment and realized there was "no" lug wrench.

 The people at Rich Ford instructed me to go purchase the tools to change a tire and bring 
 them the receipt, which I did. This was the first issue, of a number of them, that I   
 encountered, during my ownership of this 1967 GT350.

 Doug C.


Sounds like proof for an extraordinary claim  ;)

Bob Gaines

#28
Quote from: TLea on August 01, 2025, 04:16:01 PM
Quote from: shlby66 on July 30, 2025, 04:07:24 PMI was the original buyer of a 1967 Shelby GT350 (# 01111) from Rich Ford in Albuquerque, NM
 in May of 1967. Imagine my surprise, as I was looking in the trunk at the spare tire and tire
 changing equipment and realized there was "no" lug wrench.

 The people at Rich Ford instructed me to go purchase the tools to change a tire and bring 
 them the receipt, which I did. This was the first issue, of a number of them, that I   
 encountered, during my ownership of this 1967 GT350.

 Doug C.


Sounds like proof for an extraordinary claim  ;)
That's how it works for that car ;)
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby