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Ford GT s getting taken out one at a time.

Started by deathsled, December 27, 2023, 09:18:43 PM

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shelbydoug

Quote from: deathsled on December 29, 2023, 01:31:42 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 29, 2023, 01:20:08 PM
Quote from: CharlesTurner on December 29, 2023, 01:02:02 AM
I have about 1,000 miles of seat time in an '05 GT.  ..... but driving the car on public roads/traffic, it's a bit of a nuisance.
A friend sold his for exactly that same reason. People trying to take photos and nearly hitting you - everyone in a POS anything trying to race you. It was just too much to make the drive enjoyable. One time we were out and some guy in an 80s Caddie tried to get a race at 3 lights. I did keep his car cover - it fits the wife's Tbird pretty well except the mirror pockets are in the wrong spot.
I tend to drive on weekends getting an early morning start like 5:30 am and by return at say 8 or 9 am it is only then that the traffic is beginning to pick up. Also planned routes where there are fewer cars in addition to one's launch times makes driving any such car a joy again.

It's getting more and more difficult to drive them without attracting a crowd? I had one person pull me over like a cop would, roll down his window and yell, "do you know what that is?"

Another yelled, "is that real?"

Another pulled his car over outside a toll booth, stood on the center divider and waved at me to get my attention.

A freakin' marching band with the 'Playmate of the Year' nude would get less attention.
68 GT350 Lives Matter!

deathsled

Equivalent to the Attractive Nuisance Doctrine?


attractive nuisance doctrine
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Attractive nuisance is a dangerous condition on a landowner's property that may particularly attract children onto the land and pose a risk to their safety. In tort law, the attractive-nuisance doctrine imposes a duty on property owners to treat trespassing children the same as an invitee, and as a result, must exercise reasonable care to eliminate potential dangers or provide adequate warning. As the Supreme Court of Texas has stated, the rationale behind the doctrine is that a device of unusually attractive nature may be "especially alluring to children of tender years" thereby impliedly inviting children to come upon the premise, and by such invitation, the children should be considered invitees instead of trespassers. Furthermore, because the doctrine may impose a substantial burden on property owners, it is generally narrowly construed to not include common or ordinary objects like walls, fences, or gates.

According to the Restatement (Second) of Torts, a possessor of land is subject to liability for physical harm to children trespassing thereon caused by an artificial condition upon the land if:

The place where the condition exists is one upon which the possessor knows or has reason to know that children are likely to trespass; and
The condition is one of which the possessor knows or has reason to know will involve an unreasonable risk of death or serious bodily harm to such children; and
The children do not discover or realize the risk involved in intermeddling or coming within the dangerous area; and
The utility to the possessor of maintaining the condition and the burden of eliminating the danger are slight compared with the risk to the children involved, and;
The possessor fails to exercise reasonable care to eliminate the danger or otherwise to protect the children.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

shelbydoug

Quote from: deathsled on December 30, 2023, 01:45:54 PM
Equivalent to the Attractive Nuisance Doctrine?


attractive nuisance doctrine
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Attractive nuisance is a dangerous condition on a landowner's property that may particularly attract children onto the land and pose a risk to their safety. In tort law, the attractive-nuisance doctrine imposes a duty on property owners to treat trespassing children the same as an invitee, and as a result, must exercise reasonable care to eliminate potential dangers or provide adequate warning. As the Supreme Court of Texas has stated, the rationale behind the doctrine is that a device of unusually attractive nature may be "especially alluring to children of tender years" thereby impliedly inviting children to come upon the premise, and by such invitation, the children should be considered invitees instead of trespassers. Furthermore, because the doctrine may impose a substantial burden on property owners, it is generally narrowly construed to not include common or ordinary objects like walls, fences, or gates.

According to the Restatement (Second) of Torts, a possessor of land is subject to liability for physical harm to children trespassing thereon caused by an artificial condition upon the land if:

The place where the condition exists is one upon which the possessor knows or has reason to know that children are likely to trespass; and
The condition is one of which the possessor knows or has reason to know will involve an unreasonable risk of death or serious bodily harm to such children; and
The children do not discover or realize the risk involved in intermeddling or coming within the dangerous area; and
The utility to the possessor of maintaining the condition and the burden of eliminating the danger are slight compared with the risk to the children involved, and;
The possessor fails to exercise reasonable care to eliminate the danger or otherwise to protect the children.

These were all adults. Kids don't know what the cars are?
68 GT350 Lives Matter!

Grumpy

Well a lot of original Cobra's were wrecked back in the good ol days. . Good thing they didn't have Carfax back then.  ::)

Bigfoot

Quote from: Shawn on December 28, 2023, 09:16:36 AM
Most of the wrecks are due to the production Good Year tires.  A lot of these cars still have them, like hitting black ice.

Correct
RIP KIWI
RIP KIWI

Bigfoot

Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 28, 2023, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: Shawn on December 28, 2023, 09:16:36 AM
Most of the wrecks are due to the production Good Year tires.

No this type accident is 100% caused by low talent and a switch on the traction control. The ONLY way 90-95% of the population can drive a 500+ hp performance car is that the computer makes up for their lack of skills. Yes hard old tires aren't as grippy but the decent driver will adapt to the tire and not expect road race slick performance out of street tires.

Actually, tires are a major factor, and this happened to many cars that were not even two years old on the original sketchy Goodyears, which are plenty wide.
Not old tires
RIP KIWI
RIP KIWI

deathsled

Quote from: shelbydoug on December 30, 2023, 02:12:49 PM
Quote from: deathsled on December 30, 2023, 01:45:54 PM
Equivalent to the Attractive Nuisance Doctrine?


attractive nuisance doctrine
Primary tabs
Attractive nuisance is a dangerous condition on a landowner's property that may particularly attract children onto the land and pose a risk to their safety. In tort law, the attractive-nuisance doctrine imposes a duty on property owners to treat trespassing children the same as an invitee, and as a result, must exercise reasonable care to eliminate potential dangers or provide adequate warning. As the Supreme Court of Texas has stated, the rationale behind the doctrine is that a device of unusually attractive nature may be "especially alluring to children of tender years" thereby impliedly inviting children to come upon the premise, and by such invitation, the children should be considered invitees instead of trespassers. Furthermore, because the doctrine may impose a substantial burden on property owners, it is generally narrowly construed to not include common or ordinary objects like walls, fences, or gates.

According to the Restatement (Second) of Torts, a possessor of land is subject to liability for physical harm to children trespassing thereon caused by an artificial condition upon the land if:

The place where the condition exists is one upon which the possessor knows or has reason to know that children are likely to trespass; and
The condition is one of which the possessor knows or has reason to know will involve an unreasonable risk of death or serious bodily harm to such children; and
The children do not discover or realize the risk involved in intermeddling or coming within the dangerous area; and
The utility to the possessor of maintaining the condition and the burden of eliminating the danger are slight compared with the risk to the children involved, and;
The possessor fails to exercise reasonable care to eliminate the danger or otherwise to protect the children.

These were all adults. Kids don't know what the cars are?
But acting like kids. Kids can be charged as adults. Adults not charged as kids so they don't have much of a defense.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

shelbydoug

Quote from: deathsled on December 30, 2023, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on December 30, 2023, 02:12:49 PM
Quote from: deathsled on December 30, 2023, 01:45:54 PM
Equivalent to the Attractive Nuisance Doctrine?


attractive nuisance doctrine
Primary tabs
Attractive nuisance is a dangerous condition on a landowner's property that may particularly attract children onto the land and pose a risk to their safety. In tort law, the attractive-nuisance doctrine imposes a duty on property owners to treat trespassing children the same as an invitee, and as a result, must exercise reasonable care to eliminate potential dangers or provide adequate warning. As the Supreme Court of Texas has stated, the rationale behind the doctrine is that a device of unusually attractive nature may be "especially alluring to children of tender years" thereby impliedly inviting children to come upon the premise, and by such invitation, the children should be considered invitees instead of trespassers. Furthermore, because the doctrine may impose a substantial burden on property owners, it is generally narrowly construed to not include common or ordinary objects like walls, fences, or gates.

According to the Restatement (Second) of Torts, a possessor of land is subject to liability for physical harm to children trespassing thereon caused by an artificial condition upon the land if:

The place where the condition exists is one upon which the possessor knows or has reason to know that children are likely to trespass; and
The condition is one of which the possessor knows or has reason to know will involve an unreasonable risk of death or serious bodily harm to such children; and
The children do not discover or realize the risk involved in intermeddling or coming within the dangerous area; and
The utility to the possessor of maintaining the condition and the burden of eliminating the danger are slight compared with the risk to the children involved, and;
The possessor fails to exercise reasonable care to eliminate the danger or otherwise to protect the children.

These were all adults. Kids don't know what the cars are?
But acting like kids. Kids can be charged as adults. Adults not charged as kids so they don't have much of a defense.

Technically correct I suppose but in situations like this my Dad's advice to me when I was 17 or so is the most illustrative.

He said, "when you get into a fight, the cops don't care who started it. They hit you over the had with the club, throw you in jail overnight, and let the Judge work it out in the morning."

Do you know that in NY, you can't even open your jacket and flash your piece at someone? That is considered "threat with a deadly weapon". So basically you just need to be nasty to the aggressively curious.
68 GT350 Lives Matter!

Bob Gaines

#23
For the nostalgia crowd ,I have a front and back set of the Goodyears for my 2006 Ford GT that I bought shortly after I bought the car new as spares.  I don't have the car anymore. They are NOS sealed up in trash bags stored in climate  controlled storage . I will post a for sale ad with pictures sometime next week since this thread reminded me that I had them.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

98SVT - was 06GT

Quote from: Grumpy on December 30, 2023, 02:35:15 PM
Well a lot of original Cobra's were wrecked back in the good ol days. . Good thing they didn't have Carfax back then.  ::)
I've seen some pretty shabby repairs on cars with a clean Carfax. Cobras have the Nedfax and I doubt anything has escaped his little notebooks.
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang, 1998 SVT 32V, 1929 Model A Coupe, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

deathsled

Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 31, 2023, 07:13:12 PM
For the nostalgia crowd ,I have a front and back set of the Goodyears for my 2006 Ford GT that I bought shortly after I bought the car new.  I don't have the car anymore. They are sealed up in trash bags stored in climate  controlled storage . I will post a for sale ad with pictures sometime next week since this thread reminded me that I had them.
What happened to your GT?  Do you miss it?
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

Bob Gaines

Quote from: deathsled on December 31, 2023, 09:40:25 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 31, 2023, 07:13:12 PM
For the nostalgia crowd ,I have a front and back set of the Goodyears for my 2006 Ford GT that I bought shortly after I bought the car new.  I don't have the car anymore. They are sealed up in trash bags stored in climate  controlled storage . I will post a for sale ad with pictures sometime next week since this thread reminded me that I had them.
What happened to your GT?  Do you miss it?
Sold it a few years back . Yes sometimes I miss it. 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

deathsled

Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 31, 2023, 09:57:15 PM
Quote from: deathsled on December 31, 2023, 09:40:25 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 31, 2023, 07:13:12 PM
For the nostalgia crowd ,I have a front and back set of the Goodyears for my 2006 Ford GT that I bought shortly after I bought the car new.  I don't have the car anymore. They are sealed up in trash bags stored in climate  controlled storage . I will post a for sale ad with pictures sometime next week since this thread reminded me that I had them.
What happened to your GT?  Do you miss it?
Sold it a few years back . Yes sometimes I miss it.
I understand.  It is difficult to hang on to everything as we pass through life.  In the end we lose it all.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"


68krrrr

I just had  a fresh set of the recommended Bridgestone's put  on my (new to me) Gt ,the car came with the original Goodyears on it still ,which i kept for historical purposes .I figure i see people selling the original Goodyear speedways for our 67 Gt500's for show purposes ,so i might as well save these .
Current
1967 GT500 #1724
Nightmist Blue /Parchment
2005 Ford Gt Midnight blue
Porsche 911 Turbo 2007 Highly modified
1934 Ford Chopped & channeled

Previously owned
1968 GT500KR #03528 Lime green
1968 GT/CS

"Fly low & avoid the radar"
Thanks Adam