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Started by silverton_ford, January 24, 2023, 02:59:58 PM

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Bob Gaines

Quote from: terlingua11 on January 26, 2023, 10:52:20 AM
It's really too bad on how a car like this can go so sideways. All the seller had to do do was represent it for what it was. A 65 that had some race history. Was restored with some sheet metal work from 66. Has some R-model flare. Possibly has the tranny and engine from 5R211 and call it what it is. I particularly like that sort of stuff. My 66 was restored by Jim C in 1990 and we put a bunch on "non-correct" 65 / 65 R-model bits on it. I love it. Had I not been 1 year old in 66 and was buying a 66 new, these are some of the day 2 things I would have done. The reason being.... I drive it and enjoy it. There are 2 types of buyers, right? The originality "concourse" buyer who buys for the "investment" or the guy who buys for the pleasure of driving and enjoying. Neither is better than the other, but 2 different buyers. I think had the seller gone the "racing" driving route, this was a slam dunk car for the right buyer. I wish I had the cash to buy, at the right price, this is an awesome looking / sounding driver. The problem here is, the seller is looking for it to be an investment " best of all " car.... and it's not that. You guys here on the Forum do an awesome job informing everyone of the "investment" component shortfalls on many of the cars listed on the internet. I don't know why anyone buying any Shelby without having someone with extensive knowledge review that car and disclose what's not correct. Especially on a 65 where many of those components are just not available anymore. The potential buyer who walked away did just that after JB apparently got a cramp in his hand from the length of that list. Keep up the fight, as without you guys pointing this stuff out, the used car salesmen take over! Jeff-
You were hard pressed to find any 65 GT350 that didn't have some R model add on's up until about 20 years ago. About that time was when the emphasis progressed from race heritage to more assemblyline stock. Just a change in emphasis driven by resale price IMO. Now you only find tribute cars built with those add on's. Too bad the seller given the documents has to be ether clueless or tried to misrepresented the concours status on purpose. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and say he is clueless . When you try to make outlandish claims of high scoring concours as with this auction did with a car which is nether a high standard of concours correct historical details for a R model (which it is not ) or a stock street model (which it is) EXPECT push back from others that know better. If you think about the guys that go the extra mile to make their cars live up to those high originality standards it is a insult to those people (restoration shops and owners) when a car like the one in the auction (which is no doubt a excellent car in its own slightly modified condition) that is not very close to the claim of a car built to historical accurate stock standards claims that it is . It diminishes the hard work of others who have done the work more correctly.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

terlingua11

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5s386

Is there anyone, besides myself, that has seen the before and after pictures of the 2004 restoration?

Bill Collins

Quote from: 5s386 on January 31, 2023, 02:34:39 PM
Is there anyone, besides myself, that has seen the before and after pictures of the 2004 restoration?

I owned #208 in 2006 - I am in the chain of title in the Registry.

I recall that I have a file on it but it is apparently in the deep archives. The car came to me after its earlier first "restoration" but not fully sorted out. I know it had a passenger door window to roof rail alignment problem that no one up to that point had been able to correct but we fixed it. I displayed it at the Atlantic City show in February of 2006. It was a nice car and fun to drive, not concours material at that point.

I believe there may be some print photos in my file showing it "as found" before any of the early work was done, plus maybe some other descriptive material. If anyone is seriously interested in the car, I invite you to contact me and I can try to find the file.

bill@bcfords.com
717- 558-9000
Enthusiast since 1965, SAAC charter member since 1975 and Regional Rep since 1985, GT350 Owner since 1971, 289 Cobra owner 1979-2016, Ford GT owner 2006 - 2017

silverton_ford


Mikelj5S230

Why would anyone bid more for it now than before?  Seems like a waste of time unless they have drastically lower the reserve.
Formerly known as CorvetteMike.

sfm5

Quote from: MikeljGT500HE on July 11, 2023, 10:20:18 AM
Why would anyone bid more for it now than before?  Seems like a waste of time unless they have drastically lower the reserve.

If that were the case, it might have been better just to contact the high bidder from the previous auction and offer them the car!
65 GT350

silverton_ford

Second time on BAT - The high bid was $295,000, but the reserve was not met.