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Look at those black cragars.......

Chris is a great dude... and because he was so friendly and patient while I was sussing out 65s... he got the fast track to this car which is a GREAT example.

FYI, the pod was taken off the car, rocker stripe primer-ed over, and standard steering wheel installed by the long term owner because he didn't want people to know it was a 65 Shelby and attempt to steal the car out of his backyard. I am glad that his tactics worked on the likes of Charles Turner 40 years later!!!!   

Vern

 Just here to second the idea that a 9 inch is really very unnecessary in a street car that doesn't either have massive tires on it, huge power, a very aggressive driver, or all of the above.

Know lots of vintage racers who are racing with 8 inch rears, same goes for drag racers. Less $, Less unsprung weight.

By all means, though, build it however you like. A 9 inch is a nice thing to have on the spec sheet when it comes time to sell the car.

Vern

Couple points of clarification:

-1071 was owned for a long time by a gentleman out of WA state whose health was declining. The car was found/bought by Jeff Yergovich as a project in the mid stages of restoration.

-I purchased the car from Jeff in the same project state a few years ago and sold it to a great friend and client who also happens to own 5R002 and a bunch of other very tasty cars.

-Jeff finished the restoration for the current owner and won an MCA Gold with the car. He did an absolutely stunning job.... Tough to beat Brittany Blue and a blower!

-recently John Brown did a wonderful job updating the car for SAAC judging and the car obtained Gold at French Lick  John did a fantastic job on the car!!!

Kind regards,
Vern

Got the distributor~~!

Now if I could just find a carb and some wheeeeelzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Hey guys!

PLEASE PM me if you have anything for me to consider instead of commenting on the thread.... thank you! Also email is great at "vestes85 (ATe) GMAIL DOT com"

I need the following parts for a personal car. 

-Holley List 3259 with any of the following date codes: 513, 524, 531, 534, and 552.

FOUND!.......FoMoCo HiPo Distributor C5OF-12127 ... Dated 5B or 5C would be best, maybe 5D would be ok also...... FOUND!

-(2) Magnesium 6 inch (or 7 inch is fine) "American GT" wheels... aka- R-Model specific wheels

-LONG SHOT but would love to find an original paint, Gold 5A dated air cleaner base in any somewhat usable condition as-is

Happy to buy outright but also have plenty of interesting things in my private stash to trade up/down/or straight if you would rather. Below is a list of some of the stuff I have as possible "trade bait".  I'm not really looking to sell much on on the below list outright unless it helps me get what I need above. I have have put an * on some items which I would sell outright if someone needs it though.

-full set of original Konis dated perfectly for most 65 GT350s...all in exceptional condition*
-643 Dated 3259 for a mid-late 1966 GT350*
-Full set of 5 original 1966 10 spoke wheels*
-Original, NOS to near NOS 1965 GT350 tachometer
-NOS 1966 "Cobra on Top" Early Tachometer
-C6ZF-F HiPo Automatic Carb for an auto Shelby or a paxton supercharged car
-C6ZF-C HiPo 4 Speed 1966 K code carb*
-C4OF-AL HiPo carb for 1964-65 K Code or Cobra*
-original Aeroquip fuel pressure gauge line for 65 GT350, Group 2 66, etc etc
-original Carter 3939S fuel pump
-original Carter 4201S fuel pump*
-set of original 1967 small letter Speedway 350 tires*
-S1MS Cobra intake manifold with S1MS number on rear runner in EXCELLENT condition
-single NOS Ray Brown "long hook" seat belt... truly NOS, the only one ive ever seen
-Single used Ray Brown "long hook" seat belt, used but presentable with original tags
-original 1965 GT350/Carryover Cragar Lug Wrench... not a reproduction
-1968 "AB" Cobrajet Carb dated 833... previously restored but will need rebuilt again*
-NOS, assembly line Cobra Powered by Ford Closed Letter Valve covers
-Open Letter Cobra Valve covers in excellent condition

Thanks for viewing the ad... not looking for a steal and not looking to get hung either! Willing to "pay up" a fair amount to get what I need for the car.

Thank you!
Vern

5029, the Carroll Shelby School of High Performance Driving Instructor's car, will also be there. I don't believe it has ever been displayed anywhere outside the West Coast.

Kind regards,
Vern

Thanks guys, been a great day over here!

65 GT350s only got 2 seats so me and little buddy are all set.

Might need to add a convertible to the fold for ice cream dates with the 3 girls though 

Kind regards
Daddy Vern

AI version is below. Since people have taken these apart and seen no difference were they different suppliers? The AI says "different version of same part". Were things like tube thickness checked, a different hole in a bracket, weight? I could see Ford bean counters saying we could save a few ounces of brass if we use thinner material.

Did any of the San Jose cars use the soldered on tag or were they all stamped in the top tank?
https://www.amkproducts.com/parts/ford/radiator-tags/

The Y2 and G2 markings on a Ford radiator refer to different versions of the same component used on classic 1965 Mustangs. The primary difference is the date of manufacture, as the G2 designation was typically used earlier in the model year before transitioning to the Y2 mark.
Key distinctions
Production timeline: The G2-stamped radiator is generally considered the earlier version for 1965 V8 Mustangs with a manual transmission. Production shifted to the Y2 marking around May 1965.
Vehicle application: Both G2 and Y2 radiators were used on 1965 V8 Mustangs equipped with a manual transmission, particularly those from the San Jose assembly plant. The exact changeover is not precise, and some examples exist of both codes appearing around the transition period.
Stamping location: For 1965 Mustangs from the San Jose plant, the code (G2 or Y2) was stamped directly into the top tank of the radiator, not on a metal tag.
Significance for restoration: For classic Mustang restorers, getting the correct date-coded radiator is important for an authentic, "concours" level restoration.

There are also verified unmolested examples of Y2 top tank embossing that were modified with a single letter embossed "G" soldered over a slightly stamped done Y . This further shows how little difference there is between the Y2 and G2 that Ford or Modine made that slight change to inventory on hand to make them visually comply.

Most examples of the soldered over Y2 >>> "G2" have been seen on early 65s, correct? I can't personally remember seeing that on a mid or late production car but that's just from my own memory.

An example of one of those cars is 5S087 where we have a b/w photograph of the cars engine compartment at SAI with the soldered G2 on its 11/64 rad.

Kind regards,
Vern

Hey Dave,

#1) There is no physical difference between a Y2 and G2 as far as I know. I got this information from a close friend who has taken apart as many of these radiators as anyone else. He has intimately compared the two radiators and there is no difference.

#2) (bracing for impact) I think it is safe to say correctly that 65 Shelbys were SUPPOSED to have G2s. However, Y2s show up in the cars from the factory as well, just at a far lesser rate. This has long been a controversial topic but recently I have come into contact with two cars which were delivered with Y2 radiators. The first is 5S332 which was found in 1969 in a pineapple grove in Hawaii as a complete but non-running car. I bought it from the gentleman who bought the car in 69... he never started working on the car, simply saved it to one day restore it. He moved to San Diego where I got it out of his backyard under a leanto shed.  The car had all of its original parts intact, had never been disassembled, and had a 3-65 Y2 radiator in it. More recently I bought 5S345 out of Southern California- the car is original paint and retains all of its significant original parts. Has a 3-65 Y2 radiator. I have a receipt from the early 80s from when it was re-cored by the third owner.

I'll restate that the vast majority of cars did come with G2 radiators even in the close proximity of 332 and 345 there are still more cars in that gap which I've seen with G2 radiators. For example, I bought 5S335 (which is without question one of the most original cars on earth) last year and it has a 3-65 G2 in it as the factory intended.  Worth mentioning... the Ford VINs of 332 and 345 are extremely close to one another while the Ford VIN of 335 is a couple hundred away from the other two. In my mind, it is rational to assume that the line could have momentarily run out of G2 radiators and subbed in Y2s during that  brief time... but that is just an assumption.

When restoring a car I think it is best to default to the most commonly seen part (in this case G2 radiators) when the car's is lacking the part. But I will say that it makes my stomach turn when I see someone with something like a Y2 in an otherwise very honest looking car setting it aside and paying thousands of dollars for the G2 that there car is "supposed" to have.

Seat belts are another topic similar to this G2 vs Y2 topic.

Hope this is helpful,
Vern

It really was a great convention! Still recovering!

Vern

Great deal for someone

Listen here PETE.... we all know that all barnfinds are just a weekend with a few buddies and a case of cold ones away from blasting down the road.

Don't be such a downer, jeez... 

Howdy folks!

She's got all the awards and is currently bid to less than 2/3 the restoration costs alone... good chance for someone to pick up a killer car for a very reasonable price...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-shelby-mustang-gt500-convertible-14/









Kind regards,
Vern

Most don't understand how long COCOA has been around. Their initial clubhouse was one of the upper rooms at Hi-Performance Motors and the club was very much a factory adjacent entity. I believe the earliest date I've seen on a COCOA document was 1964. My memory is a little fuzzy on that though admittedly. Point being, the connection between COCOA and SAI is much closer than most people generally think today as I think we perceive COCOA's "early days" being in the mid 70s... which is not the case.

Some might remember a time or two.. team jackets and shirts have come out of the wood work from COCOA members. Collectors for a while sort of distinguished those as a later reproduction of the original shirts and jackets (which some were)... but not all were. Members of COCOA could purchase team jackets and shirts from the factory in the mid 60s. Ive bought multiple examples which originated from early members.

Vern