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road reptile,
 Now very curious about John's post....67 with Gold stripes??? Sounds like the Hertz plan that fell through but that should be in a new thread.
R.R.
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I was skeptical about the gold stripes until I stripped the original paint off.
Made it a point to take pictures of a sanded area, layers are red oxide, grey sealer, black paint, gold paint, no excuses.
I have sent a few pics of that to a few select saac members, and a well known restorer/owner.
Something else, all scoops, rear tail light panel , in yellow marker, has my cars serial number on them. I put clear satin lacquer over the marks to retain them. Many more oddities about the car.
John
ON THAT VERY POINT OF DISCOVERIES;
One never knows when history can be changed by real pictures and docs.

I did just that in a 2 day world symposium at the Watkins Glen Race track Media Center, by finally presenting 27 of our 130 docs on Harris, SCCA and his 1935 supercar.
We waited decades to prove it without doubt so there would be NO arguments. This involves rules, formulas and regulations you guys still race under to this very day, 70 years after the fact !
 
Proud to say that after 26 years I finally found a picture of Juan Fangio, Sterling Moss, Ben Harris and Wacky Arnolt in the winners circle from 1952. Proudly added to the pics of Ben with Shelby, Gurney, Madsen Gregory Harley Earl and more legends, Best regards,

NEVER give up on research !
John

John, I would love to see some pictures of the stripes especially those that have the cars vin in the fiberglass . MY email is under my avatar name. Bob 

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Bob, I did email you several oics to document the oddities on #45.
Let me know you did get them, and post herein if you want.
I am an idiot on pasting pics etc !
John Y

John I got your pictures thank you. I didn't see the ones that were of the fiberglass parts with your cars Shelby VIN marked on them which was what I was particularly interested in.

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Bob, you missed the crayon yellow numbers 45 on the pieces I sent you ?
John

road reptile,
 Now very curious about John's post....67 with Gold stripes??? Sounds like the Hertz plan that fell through but that should be in a new thread.
R.R.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I was skeptical about the gold stripes until I stripped the original paint off.
Made it a point to take pictures of a sanded area, layers are red oxide, grey sealer, black paint, gold paint, no excuses.
I have sent a few pics of that to a few select saac members, and a well known restorer/owner.
Something else, all scoops, rear tail light panel , in yellow marker, has my cars serial number on them. I put clear satin lacquer over the marks to retain them. Many more oddities about the car.
John
ON THAT VERY POINT OF DISCOVERIES;
One never knows when history can be changed by real pictures and docs.

I did just that in a 2 day world symposium at the Watkins Glen Race track Media Center, by finally presenting 27 of our 130 docs on Harris, SCCA and his 1935 supercar.
We waited decades to prove it without doubt so there would be NO arguments. This involves rules, formulas and regulations you guys still race under to this very day, 70 years after the fact !
 
Proud to say that after 26 years I finally found a picture of Juan Fangio, Sterling Moss, Ben Harris and Wacky Arnolt in the winners circle from 1952. Proudly added to the pics of Ben with Shelby, Gurney, Madsen Gregory Harley Earl and more legends, Best regards,

NEVER give up on research !
John

John, I would love to see some pictures of the stripes especially those that have the cars vin in the fiberglass . MY email is under my avatar name. Bob 

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Bob, I did email you several oics to document the oddities on #45.
Let me know you did get them, and post herein if you want.
I am an idiot on pasting pics etc !
John Y

Vern,
I made a video of the neat things on the original paint car. Big Jim Cowles flew out to Utah and bought it, I was John from Utah then.
He may have bought it for one of his customers.
Jim had a copy of the video.
Cars CSX serial number in yellow crayon on the frame rail, had many neat markings, even in the door jams !
Many of my records were stolen by my ex 25 years ago, had seven 65's, hard to remember all !
John

From your description, the car you are describing is 5S179. In the registry the ownership chain goes original owner, Curt V, Jim C. I assume you were somewhere in the middle of that chain.

Kind regards,
Vern

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No, that is not it. That is one that had original paint, A/C, lady owned, husband bought it for her,
I snagged the car, curt bought from me, and then Curt sold to Big Jim. Car had one spot paint on the rear tail light panel, Big Jim said it was one of the nicest originals he had ever seen. Curt came into play again with 65 R, 530, Stauffer , car was at Walts place in Colorado when I went.

Fun thread. With the recent passing of "The Camfather" at 104 we can't help but look back at the history of our hobby and those who were in business to make it happen. https://ahrf.com/ed-iskenderian/
Ray Brown: https://ahrf.com/ray-brown/
Tony Nancy: https://ahrf.com/tony-nancy/
This is a shot of Tony Nancy doing a burnout on Hollywood Blvd. Hamburger Hamlet was across from Grauman's Chinese which was a few doors east of Petersen's first auto museum. https://www.hotrod.com/news/hrdp-0709-top-fuel-burnout-hollywood-blvd Mike Shoen loaned them one of his Daytona Coupes for display and nearby the Lone Star sat outside and unloved at Charlie Agapiou's Rolls Royce shop. On a few occasions Jim Wallace would take the Coupe from the museum and bring it to the COCOA meeting in Orange County - fun times.
You've heard CS talk about coming to SoCal because that is where the hot rodders were that could get things built. It was a small tight knit community that not only included Ray Brown and Phil Remington but Larry Shinoda who went on to develop Pete Brocks 1950s sketch into the 63 Stingray. He also did the Boss 302. That is him with his lakes roadster the Chopsticks Special. He won his class at the first NHRA Nationals in 1955. Speaking of Pete Brock his design talents showed up in high school when his chopped/channeled Caddie powered "El Mirage" won the Oakland Roadster show in 1953. He liked the white and blue stripe theme that Briggs Cunningham had used on his LeMans effort and copied them on his car. Now you know where the GT350 stripes came from. Six degrees of separation in action.

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Cool bit of history. QUOTE
He liked the white and blue stripe theme that Briggs Cunningham had used on his LeMans effort and copied them on his car. Now you know where the GT350 stripes came from. Six degrees of separation in action.
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I have dealt with the REVS Institute, in part about Briggs, I am going to let them know this historical fact about white/blue stripes. I need to go there actually. Ben and Briggs were pretty good friends !
John

Vern,
I made a video of the neat things on the original paint car. Big Jim Cowles flew out to Utah and bought it, I was John from Utah then.
He may have bought it for one of his customers.
Jim had a copy of the video.
Cars CSX serial number in yellow crayon on the frame rail, had many neat markings, even in the door jams !
Many of my records were stolen by my ex 25 years ago, had seven 65's, hard to remember all !
John

road reptile,
 Now very curious about John's post....67 with Gold stripes??? Sounds like the Hertz plan that fell through but that should be in a new thread.
R.R.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I was skeptical about the gold stripes until I stripped the original paint off.
Made it a point to take pictures of a sanded area, layers are red oxide, grey sealer, black paint, gold paint, no excuses.
I have sent a few pics of that to a few select saac members, and a well known restorer/owner.
Something else, all scoops, rear tail light panel , in yellow marker, has my cars serial number on them. I put clear satin lacquer over the marks to retain them. Many more oddities about the car.
John
ON THAT VERY POINT OF DISCOVERIES;
One never knows when history can be changed by real pictures and docs.

I did just that in a 2 day world symposium at the Watkins Glen Race track Media Center, by finally presenting 27 of our 130 docs on Harris, SCCA and his 1935 supercar.
We waited decades to prove it without doubt so there would be NO arguments. This involves rules, formulas and regulations you guys still race under to this very day, 70 years after the fact !
 
Proud to say that after 26 years I finally found a picture of Juan Fangio, Sterling Moss, Ben Harris and Wacky Arnolt in the winners circle from 1952. Proudly added to the pics of Ben with Shelby, Gurney, Madsen Gregory Harley Earl and more legends, Best regards,

NEVER give up on research !
John

My car, 5S131, is documented as being a factory carpeted package tray car. Somewhere it says one of six factory cars. I have the documentation in my files.

I had a 65 that had a documented, by Shelby invoice/pricing, by Mr Liska, that it had a SHELBY plate on the dash as a special build. Carpeted tray, right side mirror, AC installed and a few other tid bits.
What about gold lower stripes over factory black paint on a early 657 350 ?
Shit happens !

MERRY CHRISTMAS, FROM CENTRAL ILLINOIS.

[MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !& MAY 2026 BE A TRULY HAPPY NEW YEAR]

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !
& MAY 2026 BE A TRULY
HAPPY NEW YEAR

99% sure  that this is the same guy that bought a G from me when I was still >> John from Utah.
Blue car, silver bottom, 427 was out of the car, but was there and correct.
Was an automatic.
Purchased out of California in the mid 90's
John

talking of details;
The early 1965 set up that a saac member bought, had a light bluish hose, not black.
I noticed again from TA coupe that the one picture clearly shows the whole hose is light colored, I would definitely say light blue like the original I sold >>> for concourse judging guys
John

A gray color is what I have seen on some 67 setups. They show up as light shaded in B+W photos. I wonder if blue grey is what you are seeing.

Bob,
The only reason I brought it up, was that the one early set that was here for 8 years with light blue hose, and referring to TA COUPE pictures again,
Perhaps the one in the picture is grey, looks much brighter though ?
No matter, the set up was 90% complete, down to clamps.
The late 66 early 67 unit had a black hose though.
John

talking of details;
The early 1965 set up that a saac member bought, had a light bluish hose, not black.
I noticed again from TA coupe that the one picture clearly shows the whole hose is light colored, I would definitely say light blue like the original I sold >>> for concourse judging guys
John

Is this what you are referring to?

      Roy

Roy,
Yes, that is what caught my eye,

I wanted to make a correction in my initial post, the original 1966 paxton set up, had late 66-67 date. The SAAC member did buy it for an early Paxton built 1967 GT 350.

J-Speegle, Thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it !
The 5 wheels are sold.

TA coupe,
great material, pictures are always worth a thousand words!

Seeing one of the 2 ways air cleaners were mounted is cool also.
Made me go back in my stash, found a early square air bonnet, pulley & more>>  like the one in
the article you introduced.
Thanks
John

PS, Quick edit>>  I also noticed that there appears to be a brass fitting with a hose connected to it in the bonnet, look closely at the pic with the guy in white shirt and tie.