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#1
1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 69 or 70 GT500?
January 25, 2026, 07:23:32 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 25, 2026, 06:03:16 AMAnyone remember when KR convertibles routinely sold for $350k and then dropped to $150k?

Or how about the guy that bought the car on BaT for a $100k and just sold it for $80k Warms my heart


Pete knows what he is talking about and Jeff does too. These cars are a terrible "investment" for the uninformed. If you know these cars and live and breathe them stuff can and will go wrong. Be sure you know what you are getting into before you do.
#2
SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Another version?
January 24, 2026, 10:25:15 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 24, 2026, 01:16:04 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on January 24, 2026, 12:50:15 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 11, 2026, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on January 11, 2026, 08:15:57 PMThe version with "Shelby" in place of the "Cobra" was made after car production ended. Carroll was trying to make some money. He did.
For clarification the Shelby name started appearing on intakes and other items in later 67 for sale in his catalogs etc. It is unclear if the introduction of those Shelby marked parts was after 67 production stopped or not. Shelby name aluminum parts were also sold while 68 and 69/70 Shelby production was going on. Meanwhile Ford continued to market intakes with the Cobra name on into late 69 if not 70. I am not for sure but that might be when just the name FORD began being used in place of Cobra on the intake and oil pans.   

I had a "Shelby" marked single Dominator intake that was made for the FE. At the time Shelby had partnered with JC Penney's automotive and a few other places. It was around 1972 and car production had long since ended. If you see something marked "Shelby" you know it was never mounted on a car until the car was well used. How that affects value is up to you.
Except 69/70 GT350's which used a factory installed "Shelby" marked intake for the 351W.

I thought those were marked "Cobra" too?
#3
SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Another version?
January 24, 2026, 12:50:15 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 11, 2026, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on January 11, 2026, 08:15:57 PMThe version with "Shelby" in place of the "Cobra" was made after car production ended. Carroll was trying to make some money. He did.
For clarification the Shelby name started appearing on intakes and other items in later 67 for sale in his catalogs etc. It is unclear if the introduction of those Shelby marked parts was after 67 production stopped or not. Shelby name aluminum parts were also sold while 68 and 69/70 Shelby production was going on. Meanwhile Ford continued to market intakes with the Cobra name on into late 69 if not 70. I am not for sure but that might be when just the name FORD began being used in place of Cobra on the intake and oil pans.   

I had a "Shelby" marked single Dominator intake that was made for the FE. At the time Shelby had partnered with JC Penney's automotive and a few other places. It was around 1972 and car production had long since ended. If you see something marked "Shelby" you know it was never mounted on a car until the car was well used. How that affects value is up to you.
#4
In 2011 I travelled to SFO to work on a customer's airplane. I reserved a midsize Hertz car at the airport. When I got there the lot was empty except a Shelby GT-H convertible. The Hertz attendant rented me that convertible.

It was down on power. I drove it to Oakland and used it for 3 days. It was pretty sharp looking but it did not have a whole bunch of power. I topped off the gas tank with premium when I returned it.
#5
SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Another version?
January 11, 2026, 08:15:57 PM
The version with "Shelby" in place of the "Cobra" was made after car production ended. Carroll was trying to make some money. He did.
#6
All I have seen for 1968 up are the three hole version regardless of transmission. As Bob says they can't be seen once installed and the three hole version may be what you need anyway.
#7
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 67 gt 500 waterpump
January 06, 2026, 12:11:47 PM
Dead Nuts On is where I buy water pump rebuilding tools and supplies. They will also rebuild yours if you don't want to learn. https://www.deadnutson.com/1967-shelby-gt500-water-pumps/
#8
The page also sys this - "Starting in 68 they eliminated all the other versions as there was no need for them because the -F was needed to clear the new machining protocol and it still fit all the older engines as well".

So in 1968 model year all FE's regardless of transmission used the exact same plate.
#9
It was common in 1967 to have "SPEC" in place of the date code on 1967 High performance cars on the center section of the rear axle. Ford and Shelby did not care what transmission was used. The rear ends came from the same place. 
#10
Quote from: JohnSlack on December 27, 2025, 04:42:23 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on December 27, 2025, 09:54:58 AMBuying Ford intake manifolds you won't have any problems. The price will quickly fade. Buy once, cry once.

By far Ford factory intake manifolds may make you tear up slightly not cry. I can say that I have not ever bought a factory intake manifold that I lost money on.

The problem is you can pay too much and then the intake won't be a good deal. Knowing your vendor can pay off. Particularly if you are buying to resell.
#11
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Original Exhaust hangers..
December 28, 2025, 03:48:58 PM
Scot knows how to make a reproduction part - you can't tell his parts from the assembly line ones.
#12
Buying Ford intake manifolds you won't have any problems. The price will quickly fade. Buy once, cry once.
#13
The reproduction caps are sort of not correct. They have the Autolite marking in the same spot as the black caps. The correct OEM caps are a little different.
#14
I would use original parts. The exception would be the tie rod rubbers from NPD - those are pretty decent. Dan Chock may have original idler arm and bracket if yours is not rebuildable.
#15
SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: carb issue????
December 01, 2025, 10:11:33 PM
Quote from: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on December 01, 2025, 08:52:09 AMBut what does it mean when stated that "Often "carb problems" are electrical in nature."

Just that. Drew mentioned that the distributor initial advance may have changed. I would make damn sure the distributor is correct before I claimed I had a carb problem.