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Title: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: 5s386 on December 16, 2023, 10:43:05 PM
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-shelby-mustang-gt350-17/
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: FL SAAC on December 16, 2023, 10:58:24 PM
Nice ride  !

Best of luck to the seller
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: davez on December 16, 2023, 11:35:18 PM
Already a thread
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=25372.msg188085;topicseen#msg188085
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on December 17, 2023, 07:52:36 AM
Quote from: davez on December 16, 2023, 11:35:18 PM
Already a thread
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=25372.msg188085;topicseen#msg188085
True but it should be in the "up for auction" section.
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: Mikelj5S230 on December 17, 2023, 04:05:19 PM
I am curious about the addition of the supercharger which was not factory original. Doesn't this cause a big deduction in SAAC or MCA judging?
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 17, 2023, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: MikeljGT500HE on December 17, 2023, 04:05:19 PM
I am curious about the addition of the supercharger which was not factory original. Doesn't this cause a big deduction in SAAC or MCA judging?
Deduction would be typical if entrant could not provide reasonable proof that it was installed at the dealer before the first owner took delivery when new. There are a lot of things effected by the supercharger addition like carb, fuel line, air cleaner, fuelpump ,belts ,pulleys to name a few. It would not be a deduction for just one thing.
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: Mikelj5S230 on December 17, 2023, 05:08:56 PM
Thanks Bob, yes, an entire assembly of parts replacing factory installed one I see.
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 17, 2023, 05:59:51 PM
Of course those deductions are only most relevant in concours venues where the point is to get it as close as delivered as possible. Day 2 modifications like the Paxton if executed correctly can make a other wise non concours car more desirable.
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: SCJSTU on December 17, 2023, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 17, 2023, 05:59:51 PM
Of course those deductions are only most relevant in concours venues where the point is to get it as close as delivered as possible. Day 2 modifications like the Paxton if executed correctly can make a other wise non concours car more desirable.

And that is why a Paxton rocks
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: KR Convertible on December 17, 2023, 07:06:12 PM
I'm not well versed in 67s.  What is the consensus on the AM/FM claim?  All I see is Shelby invoice showing radio for $47 and change.  Seems a little high for an AM.  Another sheet shows options of Mag Stars and AM/8track.  I don't recognize the form.  Then there's an early repair for AM/FM not working.  It's dated 7/31/67, car was sold 6/20/67.
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on December 18, 2023, 07:27:14 AM
Quote from: SCJSTU on December 17, 2023, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 17, 2023, 05:59:51 PM
Of course those deductions are only most relevant in concours venues where the point is to get it as close as delivered as possible. Day 2 modifications like the Paxton if executed correctly can make a other wise non concours car more desirable.

And that is why a Paxton rocks
+++++1
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: tesgt350 on December 18, 2023, 08:51:50 AM
How much HP does the Paxton add to the stock Shelby Engine?
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on December 18, 2023, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: tesgt350 on December 18, 2023, 08:51:50 AM
How much HP does the Paxton add to the stock Shelby Engine?
Depends on a few factors but the site says 50-80.  https://paradisewheels.biz/67-68-paxton-kit
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: Bill on December 18, 2023, 09:22:09 AM
Quote from: KR Convertible on December 17, 2023, 07:06:12 PM
I'm not well versed in 67s.  What is the consensus on the AM/FM claim?  All I see is Shelby invoice showing radio for $47 and change.  Seems a little high for an AM.  Another sheet shows options of Mag Stars and AM/8track.  I don't recognize the form.  Then there's an early repair for AM/FM not working.  It's dated 7/31/67, car was sold 6/20/67.

In 1967, retail pricing for the AM radio was a $57.51 option, while the AM/FM was a whopping $133.65 option, with the AM/8-track radio rounding out the factory radio offerings at $128.49


Bill
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: KR Convertible on December 18, 2023, 09:36:16 AM
Thanks Bill.  Just seems like a lot of money for an AM radio, plus the seller's claim of it being a factory AM/FM.  You could fill the tank 8-10 times for the price of that AM radio.

The seller did post an invoice in the comment section from one month after the car was sold stating AM/FM radio not working.
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: Bill on December 18, 2023, 09:46:20 AM
Quote from: KR Convertible on December 18, 2023, 09:36:16 AM
Thanks Bill.  Just seems like a lot of money for an AM radio, plus the seller's claim of it being a factory AM/FM.  You could fill the tank 8-10 times for the price of that AM radio.

The seller did post an invoice in the comment section from one month after the car was sold stating AM/FM radio not working.

When it came to radios, dealers were not shy about swapping them out (their cost at the parts counter, less than $20-$40 or so for spares bought from Ford) to make a deal happen. I can almost hear the salesman "we are so close here, what if I upgrade the AM radio for a AM/FM or AM-8 track, sign here, and it can be in your driveway tomorrow night".

Bill
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: Special Ed on December 19, 2023, 07:58:43 AM
 factory Am/fm and  am 8- track also had a dual speaker system in doors and extra wiring that took more labor to install all adding to extra cost.
Title: Re: 67202F2A02736 on BAT
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 19, 2023, 08:51:31 AM
Quote from: Special Ed on December 19, 2023, 07:58:43 AM
factory Am/fm and  am 8- track also had a dual speaker system in doors and extra wiring that took more labor to install all adding to extra cost.
Ed, you must be thinking of 1968. AM/FM in 1967 was mono so it didn't require the extra wiring or duel speakers.