Re: Truck on BAT

[pbf777]

    As for B.A.T. and their involvement in producing successful sales, check this one out!

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-ford-f-250-97/

    I have "attempted" to comment twice, in that the V.I.N. number being presented for this "F250 4 x 4" is not for such!  And the "Dealer/Seller" seems to be aware of an "issue", but also doesn't seem to be so very concerned!  Which is somewhat surprising, as part of the licensing agreement to become a "Dealer" states that the Dealer is responsible to establish that the "paperwork" at least seems reasonably proper, but to be passing knowingly "bad" paperwork can cost you your license (perhaps more)! 

    And then there is for example my efforts (and probably others) in commenting in which B.A.T. has chosen to hold while: "Your comment is being reviewed by BaT staff" and then has been removed as being considered "not constructive",  is now knowingly and actively participating in the sale of this vehicle! 

  And then, as for the buyers, and what it is that they might find important,  just watch them continue to bid for the vehicle, even though there's enough commenting that B.A.T. allowed to "slip-through", that even if your not familiar with the proper V.I.N. configuration, should put one on notice!   

    Scott. 

[98SVT - was 06GT]

....Are the historical and restored vehicle facts not important any more to buyers? Times have changed.

Absolutely no longer important. The value is now in how many points the car scores not in the stories that were removed to return it to day 1 condition. Buyers today only look at the rarity not the accomplishments of the Marque.

[pbf777]

    Today it seems, value is all about the "presentation", this being what the vehicle itself exudes, and then the "song & dance" presented by the marketers!  The buyers don't put forth the effort to become educated on the subject matter, nor really care anymore; it's all about the "experience" now!   

    Scott.

[pbf777]

 

BATs involvement seems to be helping to write bulletproof descriptions that really lack any proofs.

    Just as and update on my previous comment concerning this listing at B.A.T.:

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-ford-f-250-97/

    B.A.T. has stepped in and stated:

"bringatrailer

              We've updated the listing to note the truck is titled as a 1979 F250.

              -BaT"

    But unfortunately, it still doesn't have a V.I.N. from an "F250" (doesn't take a "brainchild" to figure that out!  ) on the title, nor has one been presented as physically on the truck!  But I guess, if B.A.T. says it's so, . . . .  "IT IS SO"!  I'm just not sure how it's gonna work out for ya as the new owner at the D.M.V. office, if anyone happens to look at the paper work and the vehicle at the same time! 

    I have to believe that before the end of the auction, someone from B.A.T.'s  "legal dept." might get wind of all of this and is going to step in and pull the auction. 

    Scott.

 

[98SVT - was 06GT]

..... I'm just not sure how it's gonna work out for ya as the new owner at the D.M.V. office, if anyone happens to look at the paper work and the vehicle at the same time!

They won't care - typo error would explain it. It also doesn't have the 300" straight 6 anymore.

[pbf777]

    Seems to me that when the D.M.V. clerk types in the V.I.N., the vehicle description "pops-up"; or maybe that's just another window they might have to open-up, but there 'is' a description as attached by the manufacturer to the V.I.N. available. 

    But yeah, whether anyone looks, or cares, that's a different question. But if the truck of interest were to require a physical inspection, as is often required when a vehicle is brought in from out of State, maybe the Law Enforcement Officer might notice the wrong sum of lug nuts holding the wheels on? 

    Scott.

[pbf777]

    Up-Date, (if anybody cares) in this saga where we're just waiting for the other shoe to drop!   

    The "Seller" of this "F250" has finally now acknowledged that the "Warranty Decal" and it's numbering as attached to the door, and as utilized in the vehicles' title paperwork, doesn't match the V.I.N. as stamped in it's appropriate location on the frame, this being the actual V.I.N. that carries legal value! 

    After attempting to legitimize this sale, what's B.A.T. to do now?  And then, the public is still bidding away on it!  What if, when the correct V.I.N. for the truck is run through the system, it comes up as having been "stolen"! 

    Scott.

[98SVT - was 06GT]

maybe the Law Enforcement Officer might notice the wrong sum of lug nuts holding the wheels on?

I had a 68 SWB Chevy 1/2 ton stepside 4x4 with 3/4 ton axles under it. It was still registered as a 1/2 ton.

[SCJSTU]

Having built a custom 1970 Chevy 2WD BLAZER recently I saw others build a 2WD with a 4 WD or vice versa frame.......frame swaps are done all the time when restoring older trucks for various reasons.

The seller is upfront about it.

As a buyer hope your state understands or yea you got a problem. I assume you need a good paper trail on how the two trucks came together.

The buyer may have issues when he goes to sell but maybe not.

Do your homework on what the process is to title/ register in your state first.

[pbf777]

    Well, the "other shoe" hasn't dropped yet! 

    The avalanche of commenting has gone amuck in the auction, and B.A.T. is bending over backwards now for their apparently "favorited" Seller whom (has presented 39 vehicles up for auction to date), is presenting a vehicle with title work that isn't worth the paper it's written on.  And at this time B.A.T. has interceded again stating that they have "reworked the text with what is known at this time", and has presented an attempt to clarify their participation.  Maybe "Legal" finally awoke and realized "what the F#@K!  But I don't suppose they'll ever admit to filtering the comments to hide the obvious, before it got out of hand!    

   But still, apparently not wanting to slam the door on "their" Seller, "participant", B.A.T. has also chosen to extend the auction closing date "in the interest of allowing some more room to discuss potential solutions" and to provide the Seller the opportunity for "corrective steps"! 

   What's there to "discuss"!   

   And as far as for the Seller being "upfront", well it's a popular adage with auctioneers, it goes something like: "There's an A$$ for every seat";  and as bidders are even still throwing their money at it, I guess this must be true!   
   
   Scott.

[pbf777]

      O.K., I knew it was coming, they resisted as long as they could, but I've heard the "other shoe" hit the floor! 

      The 'official' statement made by  B.A.T.:  "This listing has been withdrawn by BaT because something during this auction was not fair . . . . . ."
      Or "LEGAL"!      But it seems the vested "players" were just hoping it'd just slide on through anyway!   
 
      Scott.