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Started by deathsled, May 16, 2026, 01:21:04 AM

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Hi Charles,
I totally get it.
Not a ping to the concours guys who consistently 'up the game' to all of our benefit.
Actually, running the SAI owner's manual 'book' caster w the locker was never intended (imo) for street ops, u-turns are a tough customer, better suited for high-speed longitudinal stability.
Keep up the good work.
-Steve A

NC TRACKRAT

#16
This will now become the car that everyone will look to be the definitive early 1965 GT350. It is a thing of beauty and one that I'm sure that our friend Jim Cowles is looking down on it with great pride. I don't mean to contribute to a "pick-apart party", only to make an observation that the clamps used to attach the positive battery cable to the underbody are incorrect.  They should be fabricated of simple sheet metal approximately 5/16 inch wide, in a "P" shape, the portion that makes contact with the cable dipped in black rubber. A hole is drilled in the center of where the two surfaces form the staff of the "P" which allows them to be pop-riveted to the underbody.
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5S071, 6S1467

Bob Gaines

Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on May 17, 2026, 01:31:25 PMThis will now become the car that everyone will look to be the definitive early 1965 GT350. It is a thing of beauty and one that I'm sure that our friend Jim Cowles is looking down on it with great pride. I don't mean to contribute to a "pick-apart party", only to make an observation that the clamps used to attach the positive battery cable to the underbody are incorrect.  They should be fabricated of simple sheet metal approximately 5/16 inch wide, in a "P" shape, the portion that makes contact with the cable dipped in black rubber. A hole is drilled in the center of where the two surfaces form the staff of the "P" which allows them to be pop-riveted to the underbody.
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+1 the ones in the You Tube video appear to be common electrical supply clamps. Interesting. Ironically Jim C. was the first supplier of the correct clamps like in your pictures for at least 25 years or more prior to his passing.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

SFM65

From the Petersen archives

NC TRACKRAT

What's the car #?  Perhaps they started with those and realized they could make 'em a lot cheaper. I'll differ to Mr. Gaines for further comment.
5S071, 6S1467

Bob Gaines

Quote from: SFM65 on May 20, 2026, 05:41:02 AMFrom the Petersen archives
Compare the style and appearance of the clamps compared to the auction car too ;) .
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

SFM65

Quote from: Bob Gaines on May 20, 2026, 08:57:06 AM
Quote from: SFM65 on May 20, 2026, 05:41:02 AMFrom the Petersen archives
Compare the style and appearance of the clamps compared to the auction car too ;) .
That's what I did and I quickly concluded that Jim Cowles did not use his reproduction clamps on purpose.

Bob Gaines

Quote from: SFM65 on May 20, 2026, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on May 20, 2026, 08:57:06 AM
Quote from: SFM65 on May 20, 2026, 05:41:02 AMFrom the Petersen archives
Compare the style and appearance of the clamps compared to the auction car too ;) .
That's what I did and I quickly concluded that Jim Cowles did not use his reproduction clamps on purpose.
In my tunnel vision I neglected to indecate I was referring to the exhaust clamps with modern style raised reinforement gussets.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Bob Gaines

Although I am skeptical that the generic electrical supply type clamps are appropriate for that particular production period car(Shelby VIN in the 30's) , apparently that generic style clamp was used on the very first few cars until they got a supply of the typical style made up.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

98SVT - was 06GT

Quote from: Road Reptile on May 16, 2026, 05:20:22 PMWOW!!
Amazing car. Hope it goes into a museum so it is seen and shared.
I think the vin has no S Which makes sense for a low numbered 65.
R.R.
There are enough of them in museums and far too many squirreled away in garages. I hope some guy bought it who isn't afraid of getting it hit by an uninsured illegal and enjoys what Shelby wrought in 1965.
As far as oddball clips and clamps etc. The large scale manufacturing (anything over a few per month) for SA was new and I'm sure many different parts and installation techniques were tested to get them produced as quick and as cheap as possible. As we know Ford was never happy with the SA speed of production and sent their engineers to help speed it up - mainly by deleting many of the things that made the GT350 unique - lowered A arms, overrides and others.
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang, 1998 SVT 32V, 1929 Model A Coupe, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

Road Reptile

Just a few comments,
I really doubt many owners that spend this amount of money still street drive a car of this standard
It is in amazing condition and I think should stay that way by preserving it in a museum.
As far as clamps go the correct term for this type of clamp is "Adel" and they were/are used in a wide spread of applications. Quite possible for Shelby's to be assembled with either type??
Also agree on exhaust clamps, at least they are easy to change/replace.
My 2 cents for today.
R.R.

98SVT - was 06GT

Quote from: Road Reptile on May 21, 2026, 07:56:55 AM......As far as clamps go the correct term for this type of clamp is "Adel" and they were/are used in a wide spread of applications.
True - used a lot in all things military. There were bins full of them at every surplus outlet around SoCal. You'd go in fill up a bag of what you needed and they would weigh it and charge you about 25 cents a pound. Most of the race cars in LA had surplus clamps, bolts, AN lines, etc. I'd wager SA's parts guy was making regular restocking trips. By the mid 90s we were down to one surviving surplus store in Burbank. I was able to walk in and get a few AN lines for a Rondeau we were putting back together.
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang, 1998 SVT 32V, 1929 Model A Coupe, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless