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67 GT350 on BAT #1146

Started by azdriver, April 23, 2026, 10:04:17 AM

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Nightmist

Interesting story about the car being left at a service station in 1971.  How much does having a reproduction Shelby tag detract from value?

Coralsnake

#2
I am not really sure that can be quantified. There are a lot of cars that don't have all their original tags. As evidenced by all three of the cars on BaT currently have tag or number issues.

A lot depends on why it's missing and you can't always determine that.

For some people its a deal breaker and for others its a footnote. 

The biggest issue I see is what if that tag turns up somewhere else?

....or what if turns up on another car?

I have seen some very questionable cars with original tags, I am not sure if thats better?

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I'm looking for 9F02M480004. Have you seen it?

msrraymond

Tag was taken of back when the police look at in the 70s   and the guy in a nursing home with alzheimer his son said if they come across it he will call me

msrraymond

All the ford and shelby #s are on the apron 

J_Speegle

#5
Quote from: Coralsnake on April 25, 2026, 08:56:56 AMI have seen some very questionable cars with original tags, I am not sure if thats better?

Sure you do  :)   An original tag or even original numbers on a rebody or a Dynocorn isn't better.

Its a combination of facts and evidence that makes a car what it is. Or what it isn't  ::)

NOTE: I'm NOT reference the particular car in the ad/this thread just the part of the discussion on tags and other details in the discussion. Have not seen this car that I'm aware of.
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and SAAC Concours Advisor

msrraymond

tim lee is the only one I shown the car to.  Been in hiding since 1971 I don't care about the tag .   The car
makes the car not a tag .

roddster


Nightmist

Why would the police remove the tag in the 1970s?

capecodmustang.com

I've inspected this 67 and other than the reproduction tag it's a very nice car

I do not believe if the original tag shows up it becomes a problem.
The only value is reuniting it with the car.
It's also the right thing to do.

Simply because it has a reproduction tag it doesn't throw off the rest of the integrity of the car.


Just my .02


Bob Gaines

Quote from: Nightmist on April 26, 2026, 12:52:16 PMWhy would the police remove the tag in the 1970s?
If the police got involved my first thought is that it probably got taken off to verify the Ford VIN and than got misplaced. It was more common back than but still common today for the police and other government agencies not to understand the legitimacy of how Shelby identified the cars that they manufactured. Many states to this day only recognize the Ford VIN. Of course with enough owner documentation and pushback they can be forced to recognize the facts. 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

shelbymann1970

Speaking of having a Ford vin and a Shelby vin on 67s the take  I got is little red was titled when sold by the Ford vin. So today is the car titled by the Ford vin or the known Shelby vin?
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626

TLea

#12
Before this thread goes south and is detrimental to the sale let me answer a few things. The original tag is missing. Unfortunate and yes does affect value but more importantly is the car the car it started to be? I have inspected this car for a potential buyer and there is no doubt this is #1146 and the Ford numbers which are present on both aprons match the Shelby number on shock tower. Overall very nice car, if anyone is seriously interested they can contact me directly

Bob Gaines

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on April 26, 2026, 11:21:50 PMSpeaking of having a Ford vin and a Shelby vin on 67s the take  I got is little red was titled when sold by the Ford vin. So today is the car titled by the Ford vin or the known Shelby vin?
To answer Gary's specific question,- from a pure number stand point and not from a authentication of the body standpoint that Ford vs. Shelby VIN information may be an interesting footnote for some ,a matter of personal pride or a strategy to keep raising value vs personal property tax assessments (where applicable)under the radar to others. From a strictly identification stand point it really doesn't matter if the Ford VIN is used or not because the information is out there by SAAC and on that particular noted 67 GT500 coupe from other sources to determine what it is by cross referencing the Ford VIN and the Shelby VIN. There are aspects of the Ford VIN regardless of what year Shelby car that are specific and easily identified without looking up or contacting SAAC by a large number of knowledgeable enthusiasts that have educated themselves.Of course a complete authentication of the body and VIN are needed even if the car has all original numbers and authentic Shelby VIN tag.  Thank you SAAC for establishing this information chain available to the world.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Coralsnake

#14
Too late its in SEC country
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I'm looking for 9F02M480004. Have you seen it?