1967 shelby radios

[6s2055]

When I bought my 67 GT500 from S&C Ford (#0962), it had an Am/Fm radio, also Hub Caps. They had just taken delivery of it the day before so I assume it was not put in by S&C.

[Bob Gaines]

When I bought my 67 GT500 from S&C Ford (#0962), it had an Am/Fm radio, also Hub Caps. They had just taken delivery of it the day before so I assume it was not put in by S&C.

AM FM radio installed would be one of very few. The overwhelming majority were AM.

[Bossbill]

In the 7TPZ radio part number sequence:
7=year
T=transistor (rather than tube which would have a number for number of tubes)
P=Philco
Z=Mustang

A good visual resource:
https://sites.google.com/site/identifyingcarradios/home/radios-1/ford-2

[Richstang]

There's no doubt the '67 Shelby's were delivered to dealers with the antenna in the trunk.
There are numerous photos of dealer lots showing cars with no antennas installed.
Including JD Ball Ford, Tasca Ford, Sud Automotive, Fogg Motors, Spaniol Ford, Frontier Ford, Carey Paul Ford, etc

[Richstang]

J_Speegle" had a good point about checking the DSO's in an earlier post. I meant to get back to this sooner. I sent Brian Styles an email asking if any of the AM radios on the microfilm DSO's were listed as an option or as a deleted item. I mentioned the early and late VIN #'s of the 2 cars that had reported them (1 early build with and 1 late build without) in the 15 year old Marti Reports. I have his permission to post his reply. "A review of the film seems to indicate that the last DSO that itemized an AM radio as part of the option block was DSO 2570. Typed 11/1/66, Received 11/28/66". He thought the AM radio would be part of the basic Shelby GT350 or GT500 package, thus the AM Radio may not be listed on the Marti Reports even though they all likely had one.

"Road Reptile" mentions the VOI section at the top of Marti reports. Brian has a page that helps us to decode all those digits as well. That's where I found the Radio info as found in column #58. http://www.1967shelbyconvertible.com/research/decode.asp


Previously, I mentioned #0173 in a post as a car photographed (magazine testing) without a radio. As Bob pointed out, that car had some oddities beyond the blank radio plate.
I thought I should add that it was a SA Engineering car, which might have a lot to do with any changes from what was typical in production.


"Brian Styles" also mentions inconsistencies in the Ford records versus how the cars were actually built. He referred me to this page on his website where we can see numerous items are not the same as reported by Ford on the Marti Reports, versus what was actually built on the cars. He gets into engine codes (S / Q), axle ratios, wheels, and a couple of other items. It's interesting reading that we need to keep in mind.
http://www.1967shelbyconvertible.com/research/authentication/marti-report.asp

Update

#0173 was in a DSO group that did NOT get an AM radio installed at SJ. Thus the photo.
As an engineering car (not a PR car) SAI would have no reason to add costs by installing a radio.

[Bob Gaines]

There is documentation confirming how many cars had radios installed at the SJ plant. I wish we had information on how many cars had radios installed at SA/Hi-Performance Motors . SA had radios added after deliver from SJ in 65 ,66 and 67 because they could get it done for less money then having Ford install them . Lew Spencers Hi-Pperformance Motors is who SA have do the radio installs. 

[65cobra]

so my car does not have a radio on the Marti or SA invoice and is listed on the tech report as no radio. (Brian confirmed)

but a couple people above, Bob Gaines and JD, say all 67s had a radio.   

what should I be putting in my car?

and if no radio, that means no antenna hole anywhere right?

[Bob Gaines]

so my car does not have a radio on the Marti or SA invoice and is listed on the tech report as no radio. (Brian confirmed)

but a couple people above, Bob Gaines and JD, say all 67s had a radio.   

what should I be putting in my car?

and if no radio, that means no antenna hole anywhere right?

Given typically that one way or the other the 67 Shelby's ended up with a radio installed before the first customer took delivery, if it were my car I would be putting a AM radio in it. If you choose to go the radio delete route then you would see a radio delete plate ,no speaker,speaker delete plate where the speaker would be , the special blank plug to seal the radio antenna hole and of course no hole in the fender.

[65cobra]

I am basically conceding to put one in but in Rich's pic above with 14 cars I see 2 with antennas (both have window sticker removed so maybe dealer prepped) and the rest have no antenna and I do not see any front fender block off plates.

[J_Speegle]

I am basically conceding to put one in but in Rich's pic above with 14 cars I see 2 with antennas (both have window sticker removed so maybe dealer prepped) and the rest have no antenna and I do not see any front fender block off plates.

They, Ford, didn't have block off plates or trim in those days like they did in the late 70's. In transport it was too easy for the antennas to be broken (open rail cars were typically used)  so things like hubcaps, exterior mirrors- if non remote and antennas were not installed but left to the dealerships to install and deal with

For 67 Shelbys there are a handful of cars used for photoshoots that didn't have antennas

Picture out at the sound/blast wall the day they were doing a photoshoot with these cars and a few (Cobra included) cars




Shows how a 67 Mustang would have looked rolling on or off a transport with the items I mentioned above yet (if at all) installed




Shows 67 fastbacks bodies as delivered to SA waiting for conversion/completion to Shelbys. Notice no antennas at this point but at this point we would not expect them to be installed. Not having radios, until the cars were sold, was often an opportunity for some to up sell the customer to a more expensive option on any Ford or car they were selling. Just a game some dealers played

[Bob Gaines]

I am basically conceding to put one in but in Rich's pic above with 14 cars I see 2 with antennas (both have window sticker removed so maybe dealer prepped) and the rest have no antenna and I do not see any front fender block off plates.

Yes the antennas were installed during dealer prep. It is arguable that all of the dusty and in one case paint damaged cars in that picture had gone through dealer prep. Given that the factory ordered radio car had the antenna in the trunk and packaged with location and drill instructions It would seem reasonable to assume that even on factory ordered radio's that the fenders had to be drilled during antenna installation.   Also we have some cars with antenna installed on rear quarter.

[65cobra]

Thank you Gentlemen! Ill install a radio in.  as cool as a radio delete sounds I think it doesn't match with the Shelby ethos at this point being highly optioned deluxe interior cars