What is the correct oil filter adapter fot 67 gt 500 car completed on 4-28-67

[TA Coupe]

I'll throw a little something into this mix also. I have a 70 Mustang, but when we pulled the radio out, it was a D1 part number, and my mother and I have had it since new, so I know that it was never changed out. It is not hard at all for me to imagine that a part made for next year's cars were put on the year before cars.Because they ran out and they already had parts for the next year that would work. If a car was made near the end of production.I could see this happening,But I have not paid attention to what month the car is that we were talking about.

       Roy

[Bob Gaines]

I'll throw a little something into this mix also. I have a 70 Mustang, but when we pulled the radio out, it was a D1 part number, and my mother and I have had it since new, so I know that it was never changed out. It is not hard at all for me to imagine that a part made for next year's cars were put on the year before cars.Because they ran out and they already had parts for the next year that would work. If a car was made near the end of production.I could see this happening,But I have not paid attention to what month the car is that we were talking about.

      Roy

Roy ,I never said it didn't happen or couldn't happen if you review my posts. This started out with me giving a observation of what was typical and what was not typical based on many years of studying the subject. You are getting off track in that you are talking about later years and not 67.  We see what you are talking about more starting in 1969 production with DO marked (1970) suspension parts parts etc. typically being used on Shelby's and Boss cars and of course various 71 marked parts used in 70 as you experienced. 1967 production is what this thread is about which is not the same and where I see instances of such things happening much more rarely and certainly not typically especially for the part in question. I am still learning all of the time but I suppose since I study multiple years (65-70 Shelby's mainly) and build on the information contributions of other peers on the subject help me better see the patterns and progression of parts and production evolution that others that aren't familiar with the earlier years don't see. There are many others that see these same patterns and production evolution. 

[shelbydoug]

It isn't that way.

There is a clear and ever danger in stating categorically for something like this that it could not have come on the car.

I would feel comfortable to read a statement that the C0 part number is what is EXPECTED on the car and I would AGREE with that.


What is going on really, if you can back out far enough to put yourself into "an Architect of the Universe" position, is that others are coming here, for different reasons other than as being "part of the sport", in order to build their "Investment Quality Portfolio".

They are not looking to advertise their "100 point car", they want a 1000 point correct car. That invites the purveyors to demand things like $699,999, for a B9 car.



While there are many more things going on that are changing our "hobby" that is way beyond our control, the overall movement in the "valuation process" of pricing these cars is legitimized by the "Concourse" segment.

In SAAC's case, that actually accounts for something less then 1% of the membership according to some.
Certainly that is a player and seems to show in the overall turnouts at the SAAC national conventions.


So in regards to recently asked questions asked here, such as, what are the acceptable date codes on bumpers, rocker panels, oil filter adapters and the likes, those folks are looking for instruction manuals on how to build a car. Good luck on that, and maybe if that was possible, that is even beyond a 1,000 point car and heading towards a 10,000 point car..."of investment quality"?


I have always enjoyed reading your posts and learning from them. You are extremely knowledgeable, experienced and generally forthcoming...mostly. That's ok. No one is perfect and no one is expected to be, but this (too lengthy) statement from me is just a caution to us all, not just a criticism of you, not to feed the beast that is so surely to make all of these cars just museum pieces any sooner then they are already headed towards.

[Bob Gaines]

It isn't that way.

There is a clear and ever danger in stating categorically for something like this that it could not have come on the car.

I would feel comfortable to read a statement that the C0 part number is what is EXPECTED on the car and I would AGREE with that.


What is going on really, if you can back out far enough to put yourself into "an Architect of the Universe" position, is that others are coming here, for different reasons other than as being "part of the sport", in order to build their "Investment Quality Portfolio".

They are not looking to advertise their "100 point car", they want a 1000 point correct car. That invites the purveyors to demand things like $699,999, for a B9 car.



While there are many more things going on that are changing our "hobby" that is way beyond our control, the overall movement in the "valuation process" of pricing these cars is legitimized by the "Concourse" segment.

In SAAC's case, that actually accounts for something less then 1% of the membership according to some.
Certainly that is a player and seems to show in the overall turnouts at the SAAC national conventions.


So in regards to recently asked questions asked here, such as, what are the acceptable date codes on bumpers, rocker panels, oil filter adapters and the likes, those folks are looking for instruction manuals on how to build a car. Good luck on that, and maybe if that was possible, that is even beyond a 1,000 point car and heading towards a 10,000 point car..."of investment quality"?


I have always enjoyed reading your posts and learning from them. You are extremely knowledgeable, experienced and generally forthcoming...mostly. That's ok. No one is perfect and no one is expected to be, but this (too lengthy) statement from me is just a caution to us all, not just a criticism of you, not to feed the beast that is so surely to make all of these cars just museum pieces any sooner then they are already headed towards.

I agree with what you say which is why, if you review my text I try to stay away from "stating categorically " by using the words typical,typically and rarely to name a few.

[Road Reptile]

Hi again 67 fans,
One thing overlooked by this discussion is Warranty replacement. If Doug's car had an oil leak or pressure concern when new, and the adapter was the fault it would explain why a  C8 part was on an engine built in 67. And if this was done when the car was new it would appear "original"
You would need to know the complete history and it is a rare find in today's world. Hope this helps people understand what makes it so important to document everything.As well how important it is to have certain judging standards and stick to them. Just my 2 cents
R.R.

[Coralsnake]

"Concours"

[shelbydoug]

"Concours"

I stand.corrected. i could never spell.

I cant.claim the C8 is original to the car.
I am pointing out only that the part has a date on it where it does fit into the timetable in which Ford built the engine.

I have found the FE's in particular to have more of these parts with dating conflicts that shouldnt exist, but do.

To find a verifiable "untouched" 67 GT500 would be like finding "Nessie", the Lockness "monster" at this point?

Would it have a date code too?🫤

[FL SAAC]

I'll throw a little something into this mix also. I have a 70 Mustang, but when we pulled the radio out, it was a D1 part number, and my mother and I have had it since new, so I know that it was never changed out. It is not hard at all for me to imagine that a part made for next year's cars were put on the year before cars.Because they ran out and they already had parts for the next year that would work. If a car was made near the end of production.I could see this happening,But I have not paid attention to what month the car is that we were talking about.

       Roy

Very possible, great explanation

[shelbydoug]

I'll throw a little something into this mix also. I have a 70 Mustang, but when we pulled the radio out, it was a D1 part number, and my mother and I have had it since new, so I know that it was never changed out. It is not hard at all for me to imagine that a part made for next year's cars were put on the year before cars.Because they ran out and they already had parts for the next year that would work. If a car was made near the end of production.I could see this happening,But I have not paid attention to what month the car is that we were talking about.

       Roy

I would suspect that this is not a rare occurrence at all? No one really noticed original date codes until we all got into this seeking originality thing now.

Now we even want "original bolts" with the original finish and head markings.

It's a good thing that there is no way to determine if an original tire still has original air in it. We can't do that now...right? 

[J_Speegle]

While there are many more things going on that are changing our "hobby" that is way beyond our control, the overall movement in the "valuation process" of pricing these cars is legitimized by the "Concourse" segment.

In SAAC's case, that actually accounts for something less then 1% of the membership according to some.
Certainly that is a player and seems to show in the overall turnouts at the SAAC national conventions.

Of course using this logic, you would have to also believe that racing or at least putting your car on a track at a convention represents only a very very small percentage of the membership also. Same thing for buying and selling of parts and so on. Even to the point of a very small representation at the whole even of members. 

Of course you don't have to participate in any of these individual events or parts of the convention to enjoy, learn, have fun or appreciate those that do take part. For example, you might have two dozen or so concours cars like we did this year but hundreds of members taking part in viewing, talking and just enjoying that part of the convention.

Sorry to get off thread but thought a comment was warranted

It's a good thing that there is no way to determine if an original tire still has original air in it. We can't do that now...right? 

Don't think we (SAAC) have the tools for that but believe the tools are out there. Read that they were testing the "air" found in bubbles in the ice in glaziers so guess that same science could be applied to your question

[trotrof1]

Stop it Jeff please, no need to raise the bar any higher.

[J_Speegle]

Stop it Jeff please, no need to raise the bar any higher.

Just responding to a question.   Wasn't my idea though someone always seems to bring it up.