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1969 Rear Lace variation

Started by Shelbytatro, August 21, 2025, 10:15:52 PM

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Bill

Quote from: tesgt350 on August 22, 2025, 02:37:47 PMI believe the Chrome is still on there (see Photo).


It is, but is painted black in the OP's pictures, as his whole trim panel has been in the past.
If the chrome had been removed, the mesh and the backing would come apart, as the chrome trim is what holds it together using a sandwich construction technique.

Bill

PS: With the very limited pictures I saw posted on the 69/70 Facebook page, I'd say the car is not all original, but original to a point. Additional pictures (there or here) will be needed to ascertain just how original...
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Bob Gaines

Quote from: tesgt350 on August 22, 2025, 02:37:47 PMI believe the Chrome is still on there (see Photo).

If you choose to read reply #7 you will see that I said they had been painted. If you take the polished aluminum (not chrome) trim off there is nothing to hold the lace to the backing panel. The aluminum trim corrodes over time and after sanding smooth painting provides an inexpensive solution although not factory.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Coralsnake

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Quote from: Bob Gaines on August 22, 2025, 04:47:42 PMIf you choose to read reply #7 you will see that I said they had been painted. If you take the polished aluminum (not chrome) trim off there is nothing to hold the lace to the backing panel. The aluminum trim corrodes over time and after sanding smooth painting provides an inexpensive solution although not factory.

precisely what we did, paint it

we found the replicas plastoc trim pieces are not the same

so we painted the originals and reused them
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Quote from: Coralsnake on August 22, 2025, 05:15:32 PMTalked to Todd, he understands whats going on.

Have been conversing off line well  ;)
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TOBKOB

There were also a couple of different mesh variations from Ford back in the day... ;)

TOB
1969 GT350 owned since 1970

FL SAAC

another interesting factoid on painting this piece

before painting we spoke to a friend who has a paint and body shop, he advised us although it was a simple job, it is challenging

he said you had to prepare plastic for painting without sanding, you must thoroughly clean it with soap and hot water to remove dirt and oils.

we actually used a degreaser, then washed it with isopropyl alcohol to remove non-water-soluble contaminants, followed by a wax and grease remover.

the last step was to apply a plastic-specific adhesion promoter or self-etching primer to create a surface the paint can chemically bond to the plastic.

he was right, so the last steps, we gave it to him to spray

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#22
Shelbytatro, I see you are building a new garage and I thought I would offer a few suggestions because I went through this a few years ago. Put in a lot of outlets because it's cheaper to do it now but can be expensive later. Also put in a lot of lights. I have 14 4ft ones hanging from the ceiling with half on one switch and half on the other. Now is the time to epoxy the floor while it's fresh. I've used rustoleum on 4 different garages and it's pretty good. My wife and I did the epoxy coating on 2300 square feet of our current garage and painted a blue stripe all the way around. Here's a link to my youtube channel:

https://youtube.com/@royrichards4142?si=k8r4i_8BbYuNFUn3

Just click on videos and the first one is a slideshow of the building of it. There's a similar one way down below also. If you click on the one showing a white 65 Impala that one is a walk through after we got most of the stuff moved in. If you have any questions just ask. Also put in good insulation. We have R30 in the ceiling and R19 in the walls.

      Roy
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Bob Gaines

Quote from: FL SAAC on August 23, 2025, 02:40:33 AManother interesting factoid on painting this piece

before painting we spoke to a friend who has a paint and body shop, he advised us although it was a simple job, it is challenging

he said you had to prepare plastic for painting without sanding, you must thoroughly clean it with soap and hot water to remove dirt and oils.

we actually used a degreaser, then washed it with isopropyl alcohol to remove non-water-soluble contaminants, followed by a wax and grease remover.

the last step was to apply a plastic-specific adhesion promoter or self-etching primer to create a surface the paint can chemically bond to the plastic.

he was right, so the last steps, we gave it to him to spray


Although apparently well intentioned your factoid is false.  To clarify for others reading the lace mesh,outer trim and inner backing plate are all metal not plastic.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

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Siegfried you are correct, our sincerest apologies.  The plastic piece was a  aftermarket piece we had on one of our cars. Our eternal thanks on the correction.


Quote from: Bob Gaines on August 23, 2025, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on August 23, 2025, 02:40:33 AManother interesting factoid on painting this piece

before painting we spoke to a friend who has a paint and body shop, he advised us although it was a simple job, it is challenging

he said you had to prepare plastic for painting without sanding, you must thoroughly clean it with soap and hot water to remove dirt and oils.

we actually used a degreaser, then washed it with isopropyl alcohol to remove non-water-soluble contaminants, followed by a wax and grease remover.

the last step was to apply a plastic-specific adhesion promoter or self-etching primer to create a surface the paint can chemically bond to the plastic.

he was right, so the last steps, we gave it to him to spray


Although apparently well intentioned your factoid is false.  To clarify for others reading the lace mesh,outer trim and inner backing plate are all metal not plastic.
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Rosco

my center piece is a little loose, what is used to attach?

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Rosco on August 23, 2025, 09:34:51 PMmy center piece is a little loose, what is used to attach?
Originally double sided tape. The double side tape strip typically stays stuck to the metal backing plate of the lace section and comes loose from the fiberglass. Rather then risk bending the panel while trying to remove the double sided tape I use a thin layer of clear silicone applied to the unstuck tape and hold to the fiberglass with blue tape until the silicone sets. Once it sets up it will be at least as strong as the double sided tape was when first installed. 
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Bill

Quote from: Rosco on August 23, 2025, 09:34:51 PMmy center piece is a little loose, what is used to attach?

The 3 piece assembly itself (original or reproduction they are the same style of 3 piece construction), or the assembly to the rear trunk lid?

To put the three pieces back together, I've used 3M Emblem adhesive (clear) 0361. To install on the trunk panel, I've used a black 3M weatherstrip adhesive 08008. The trick for both is to not get them within an inch of the edge, so that it cannot be seen when installed.

Hope you find this helpful.

Bill
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SCJSTU

#29
Looks like this car does not have chrome trim and is being called a Survivor car.....

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