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Valve Spring color - HiPo 289

Started by 6s1640, June 09, 2025, 10:59:12 PM

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6s1640

Hi all,

I have 16 NOS HiPo 289 valve springs and they're not very pretty. The one with paint shown in the below image has been cleaned up. They've been sitting around for too long and who knows what environment.They're fully functional, but I'd like to clean them up.  The factory painted them a dark red I assume for identification purposes. Does anybody know what color that is if I were to repaint the outer spring?  When I soak in the rust remover, it takes all the paint off. How can I make them look OEM again?
Thanks
Cory

JohnSlack

Any valve springs that are from the distant past need to be checked on a valve spring tester.

Valve springs that have sat NOS in a box for 80 years plus with no rust are still going to be happy. However valve springs that have lived in an engine, not run for the past 10 years are going to be unhappy.

I'd suggest checking them out.


John

pbf777

     I do understand the interest in attempting to reutilize all of the original parts in ones' restoration undertaking but com'on, valve springs?   ::)

     Also any corrosion to the point of damaging/pitting of the surface of the wire winding which creates micro/macro fissures and this which encourages fractures, is reason enough to discarded them.   ;)

     Scott.

Bob Gaines

Quote from: pbf777 on June 10, 2025, 06:14:35 PMI do understand the interest in attempting to reutilize all of the original parts in ones' restoration undertaking but com'on, valve springs?   ::)

     Also any corrosion to the point of damaging/pitting of the surface of the wire winding which creates micro/macro fissures and this which encourages fractures, is reason enough to discarded them.   ;)

     Scott.
+1 . If you want to look like original I would suggest to paint new aftermarket springs instead.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

TA Coupe

Why would anyone want to paint a spring and take the chance that some of it would start peeling off and getting into the oil system? And possibly clogging up your filter or something else. Makes absolutely no sense to me. Do they take the valve covers off and look for paint on Springs when they're doing a concourse inspection?😵�💫🤔

      Roy
If it starts it's streetable.
Overkill is just enough.

Bob Gaines

Quote from: TA Coupe on June 11, 2025, 02:07:00 AMWhy would anyone want to paint a spring and take the chance that some of it would start peeling off and getting into the oil system? And possibly clogging up your filter or something else. Makes absolutely no sense to me. Do they take the valve covers off and look for paint on Springs when they're doing a concourse inspection?😵�💫🤔

      Roy
Never have heard of opening a engine up in concours and most likely never will. It would only be a personal satisfaction knowing thing. I suspect what some spring mfg's would use for identification was/is not conventional paint but what was more like a stain or maybe a glyptal type paint like some racers would paint the insides of the engine block so oil would flow easier/faster back to the oil pump.You sure would not want to use conventional paint for reasons like you said.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Coralsnake

Mr Gaines, that is what those snake cameras are for!
Check out theCoralsnake.com

I'm looking for 9F02M480004. Have you seen it?

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Coralsnake on June 11, 2025, 08:09:45 AMMr Gaines, that is what those snake cameras are for!
Ah ha  :D . But I think you might have some trouble getting by the valve cover breather hole baffles even with the snake camera . ;)  :D
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

tesgt350

OK, you all are taking Car Show Judging to the Ultra Extreme...... ::)   ;D

6s1640

Hi guys,

Thank you all for your input. It is crazy, I know. I agree.

Take care

Cory

Bob Gaines

Quote from: tesgt350 on June 11, 2025, 11:54:23 AMOK, you all are taking Car Show Judging to the Ultra Extreme...... ::)   ;D
All done with tongue in cheek. ;D 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

JohnSlack

Quote from: Bob Gaines on June 11, 2025, 07:58:36 AM
Quote from: TA Coupe on June 11, 2025, 02:07:00 AMWhy would anyone want to paint a spring and take the chance that some of it would start peeling off and getting into the oil system? And possibly clogging up your filter or something else. Makes absolutely no sense to me. Do they take the valve covers off and look for paint on Springs when they're doing a concourse inspection?😵�💫🤔

      Roy
Never have heard of opening a engine up in concours and most likely never will. It would only be a personal satisfaction knowing thing. I suspect what some spring mfg's would use for identification was/is not conventional paint but what was more like a stain or maybe a glyptal type paint like some racers would paint the insides of the engine block so oil would flow easier/faster back to the oil pump.You sure would not want to use conventional paint for reasons like you said.

The heck with the valve springs, I personally know some "Concourse" restored BOSS 302 Mustangs that have Stroker Cranks and Rods, solid rollers, etc. So definitely don't start taking valve covers off or snaking the oil pans.



John

CharlesTurner

Charles Turner
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pbf777

    More than once, we have had customers wanting "FoMoCo" logo and date coded correct rod & main bearings for their engines!   ::)

    Scott.

JohnSlack

Quote from: pbf777 on June 12, 2025, 03:58:29 PMMore than once, we have had customers wanting "FoMoCo" logo and date coded correct rod & main bearings for their engines!   ::)

    Scott.

I have also had that request from someone who I was building an engine for. I politely said, No! Next question.