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Washer on top screw of interior quarter trim?

Started by owenkelley, April 10, 2025, 12:22:07 PM

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owenkelley

We are putting together an early '67 GT500. When we took the car apart the screw towards the top of the panel that you see when you open the door, the one closest to the rollbar, had a silver eyelet style washer that the screw sat in. So does my #589. Mine are painted black, which I may have done 35 years ago when I painted the interior parts. I don't believe standard Mustang fastbacks had these. Any opinions on this?

J_Speegle

Commonly found addition for that location and screw. Not original to the car as you suspected
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

Bob Gaines

Quote from: owenkelley on April 10, 2025, 12:22:07 PMWe are putting together an early '67 GT500. When we took the car apart the screw towards the top of the panel that you see when you open the door, the one closest to the rollbar, had a silver eyelet style washer that the screw sat in. So does my #589. Mine are painted black, which I may have done 35 years ago when I painted the interior parts. I don't believe standard Mustang fastbacks had these. Any opinions on this?
In case you are not aware the rear interior panels are not painted black but all are painted dark charcoal metallic.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

JD

#3
The screws are not black, I think you know that but for others...

Also to Bob's paint color comment...
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

owenkelley

Thanks for the input, we are aware of the color being charcoal. It's interesting thst the car with the rollbar donut that JD posted a picture of appears to have the eyelet washer as well. We were wondering if some were added at SA after they removed the interior panel to install the rollbar and rear brake ducting. They were on mine when I bought it in '82 and they're on this one that hasn't been apart since the 70's when the previous owner put speakers in the interior panels. Hard to know at this point. It would be interesting to know if any if the low mile originals out there have them. At this point it's probably anyone's guess, but since regular Mustang fastbacks didn't have them it's probably safe to bet they aren't supposed to be there. Are points docked for them in concourse judging?

JD

#5
Quote from: owenkelley on April 10, 2025, 01:43:59 PMThanks for the input, we are aware of the color being charcoal. It's interesting thst the car with the rollbar donut that JD posted a picture of appears to have the eyelet washer as well. We were wondering if some were added at SA after they removed the interior panel to install the rollbar and rear brake ducting. They were on mine when I bought it in '82 and they're on this one that hasn't been apart since the 70's when the previous owner put speakers in the interior panels. Hard to know at this point. It would be interesting to know if any if the low mile originals out there have them. At this point it's probably anyone's guess, but since regular Mustang fastbacks didn't have them it's probably safe to bet they aren't supposed to be there. Are points docked for them in concourse judging?

Easy to run the screw in too far or too many times (to your point) and the hole gets "bigger" then no longer holds the screw or the panel tight.

Yes, deduction as is should not be there - at best a comment that they shouldn't be there.  Others will comment. A larger version of the same type screw with the correct finish would be less noticeable - which is what I think you're seeing in the posted photo above.
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

Bob Gaines

Quote from: JD on April 10, 2025, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: owenkelley on April 10, 2025, 01:43:59 PMThanks for the input, we are aware of the color being charcoal. It's interesting thst the car with the rollbar donut that JD posted a picture of appears to have the eyelet washer as well. We were wondering if some were added at SA after they removed the interior panel to install the rollbar and rear brake ducting. They were on mine when I bought it in '82 and they're on this one that hasn't been apart since the 70's when the previous owner put speakers in the interior panels. Hard to know at this point. It would be interesting to know if any if the low mile originals out there have them. At this point it's probably anyone's guess, but since regular Mustang fastbacks didn't have them it's probably safe to bet they aren't supposed to be there. Are points docked for them in concourse judging?

Easy to run the screw in too far or too many times (to your point) and the hole gets "bigger" then no longer holds the screw or the panel tight.

Yes, deduction as is should not be there - at best a comment that they shouldn't be there.  Others will comment. A larger version of the same type screw with the correct finish would be less noticeable.
+1 . A beauty washer ring used with screw is a small deduction or a mention at the very least depending on how many. IT IS A EASY FIX . It is just that it requires the removal of the part to fix . Epoxy fill and redrill the hole if you can't figure it out.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby