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Started by Gregory177, June 15, 2021, 08:37:18 PM

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Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 16, 2021, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on June 16, 2021, 04:35:56 PM
I would retiltle this post from:

Scammed by a sac (SAAC) member to scammed by a grifter, con artist, sh*t bag, scumbag,  douche·bag, well you get it.  NOT A SAAC MEMBER

Looking at the forum members list shows Nicolasmoore just signed up on the forum on June 6th 2021.

He is not listed as a SAAC club member.



Quote from: Gregory177 on June 15, 2021, 08:37:18 PM
Hey Bob, I have a question a about how to post in the yellow flashing scamm alert. I have been scammed by a new sac member. Goes by Nicolasmoore.  I posted in the wanted section for a 69 shifter detent spring and rear Taillight harness, he responded to both requests of which I had already bought the Taillight harness from you so I PayPal to a address he referred me to and now will not respond and no tracking number has been about 10 days with no response.  Just trying to make sure no one else gets scammed.  Thanks for your input
Maybe SAC is sorry a$$ conman?


Charles Ponzi anyone ?
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Quote from: Wedgeman on June 16, 2021, 06:27:14 PM
Has he been kicked off yet ?.... >:(

And if he has,  he will just comeback under another inspirational name as many have and do.....look for Count Victor Lustig.

You know he sold the Eiffel Tower twice to French businessmen.
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deathsled

Stories like this makes my mind drift to various methods of torture, the types that don't leave a permanent physical mark but do leave a permanent mental mark.  I sometimes wonder how good I'd be at administering torture for such transgressions and think, on occasion, that I might accel at it and might even enjoy it a bit. 
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

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#18
I see you long for the good old days, ah yes the Spanish inquisition those where the days !

Quote from: deathsled on June 16, 2021, 10:34:22 PM
Stories like this makes my mind drift to various methods of torture, the types that don't leave a permanent physical mark but do leave a permanent mental mark.  I sometimes wonder how good I'd be at administering torture for such transgressions and think, on occasion, that I might accel at it and might even enjoy it a bit.
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deathsled

They got results nevertheless....
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

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Quote from: deathsled on June 17, 2021, 10:19:09 AM
They got results nevertheless....

If needed i have access to the  Dominican and Franciscan order.

Non less if these heretics do not confess,  inescapable  torture and execution will be applied
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Quote from: deathsled on June 17, 2021, 10:19:09 AM
They got results nevertheless....
Hmm some lie under torture especially if they don't have the real answers. Check out the WWII story here.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effectiveness_of_torture_for_interrogation
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#22
I wouldn't be in it for the information. By then I will already have positively identified the culprit. Perhaps my methods would, instead, be for some other insidious purpose...
Ironically it was a Luftwaffe Commandant who adopted the friendly questioning method as far more effective which sorta became a guidebook for the CIA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Scharff

Hanns Scharff, a German WWII pilot interrogator, is considered the most successful interrogator of all time. In fact, he was so successful, he helped in shaping the U.S. interrogation techniques after the war. But how did he do it?

According to his own words, Scharff developed several techniques that helped him in his interrogations. First of all, instead of torturing or degrading prisoners, Scharff offered them courtesy and what appeared to be consideration. Instead of attempting to coerce or persuade with offers of booze and prostitutes, Scharff and his fellow officers took prisoners to whatever cinema shows were available at camp, and even shared tea and coffee with them, when they could get it.

According to Scharff, Prisoner of War (POW) interrogations should consist of three phases. First is to help the POW relax and feel comfortable by making small talk about anything at all. Second, after he's loosened up, the questioner should try to get the prisoner to reveal any military information or plans that he might know, ideally without letting him realize he has said anything of value. Third, the interrogator must write an evaluation report that is truthful, and that contains any and all information that might be useful to commanding officers in the field.

"So why did you sell a Shelby part you never owned? More tea?"
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

FL SAAC

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 17, 2021, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: deathsled on June 17, 2021, 10:19:09 AM
They got results nevertheless....
Hmm some lie under torture especially if they don't have the real answers. Check out the WWII story here.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effectiveness_of_torture_for_interrogation

The exemplary tools and methods used during that period,  the Spanish donkey, the Judas chair and of course being burned alive usually got the wanted results ( your death, truth or lies are irrelevant, it's the neutralization that quenched your thirst) viva España !
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Jbarela

Yea, this has happened many times to me here. Trollers and scammers and fishers for your email address.

SCJSTU

Similar almost got me scam on the Vintage Mustang forum from a wanted ad I posted for a carb. Guy sent an email saying his friend had one and was an honest seller

The guy sent real pictures of the carb but then it started to smell fishy so I backed out

Happened again on VMF so these guys have figured out guys looking for parts are an easy target

Get them on the phone, Google their name and number, search Facebook and make contact thru the forum PM system several times before private email

If you can't find them on Google or Facebook then they may be hiding

Also look at the email address....do you recognize the domain? The . Com part?
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I had posted a wanted ad for a t-10 was given this Mike Phelps email info. tried to sell me a gm trans. Thought I was stupid. No thanks. Need to inform any forum member contacted by Mike Phelps friend.

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Michael "Mike " Phelps one heluva of a guy, but kinda slippery when wet
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I have all UNGOLD cars

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I guess Im too old school. I miss the snakebite you had to wait but I things always worked out for me. Yes I do have a gray beard.

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Quote from: deathsled on June 17, 2021, 12:10:54 PM
I wouldn't be in it for the information. By then I will already have positively identified the culprit. Perhaps my methods would, instead, be for something other insidious purpose...
Ironically it was a Luftwaffe Commandant who adopted the friendly questioning method as far more effective which sorta became a guidebook for the CIA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Scharff

Hanns Scharff, a German WWII pilot interrogator, is considered the most successful interrogator of all time. In fact, he was so successful, he helped in shaping the U.S. interrogation techniques after the war. But how did he do it?

According to his own words, Scharff developed several techniques that helped him in his interrogations. First of all, instead of torturing or degrading prisoners, Scharff offered them courtesy and what appeared to be consideration. Instead of attempting to coerce or persuade with offers of booze and prostitutes, Scharff and his fellow officers took prisoners to whatever cinema shows were available at camp, and even shared tea and coffee with them, when they could get it.

According to Scharff, Prisoner of War (POW) interrogations should consist of three phases. First is to help the POW relax and feel comfortable by making small talk about anything at all. Second, after he's loosened up, the questioner should try to get the prisoner to reveal any military information or plans that he might know, ideally without letting him realize he has said anything of value. Third, the interrogator must write an evaluation report that is truthful, and that contains any and all information that might be useful to commanding officers in the field.

"So why did you sell a Shelby part you never owned? More tea?"
Damn.....that was a good post.   I'm not sure if I fully understand the subtitles of interrogations but I really enjoyed the education of your information, sincerely.   Where did you acquire this info from?   I'd like to read a bit more about it.

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