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Been asked a number of times since the new site has gotten back on its feet to repost so here it is

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Not specifically 69 Shelby's only document so read through it carefully there are some variables. Hope this helps others


This is an article I've written and rewritten a dozen times over 20 years. Found it was easier to have a prepared document when I got questions related to the subject rather than going through the whole thing every time. It proved to be a challenge as your always discovering new details, sub patterns and such along the way so it has only been share privately in the past since I never felt it was finished. Not sure anything I do is completely

Also just limiting the coverage to one area of the car was sort of difficult when you want to help and describe everything that was going on at that point at the car plant.  See allot of related requests here so thought it would be a good time to try and wrap it up then focus on some of the other years and plants. Hope some here find it useful in there related endeavors.

Will be updates as new information is discovered and accepted as well as mistakes, typos and such are found

Free storage sites can be a pain. Currently they are limiting the size of the file so had to post the article in two parts. (total over 40 megs-16 pages) Need to find a better solution long term as I have an Article that is over 55 pages I would like to share, but currently its uploaded on this NZ site. Sorry it takes a while for it to load on your computer

https://www.docdroid.net/Zs6RTqh/69-dearborn-under10-2021v14-a-open-pdf


For those that are also members of CMF the article is also located in the Library there with all the other articles listed by model year

Its a Big file with plenty of pictures so will take some time to load. Be patient    Takes me about 2+ minutes before its visible on a average day

Hope it helps others

Thanks for looking

Been asked a number of times since the new site has gotten back on its feet to repost so here it is

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Not specifically 66 Shelby's only document but our cars share the same details as a Mustang produced there if you pay attention to production periods. Hope this helps others


This is an article I've written and rewritten a dozen times over 20 years. Found it was easier to have a prepared document when I got questions related to the subject rather than going through the whole thing every time. It proved to be a challenge as your always discovering new details, sub patterns and such along the way so it has only been share privately in the past since I never felt it was finished. Not sure anything I do is completely

Also just limiting the coverage to one area of the car was sort of difficult when you want to help and describe everything that was going on at that point at the car plant.  See allot of related requests here so thought it would be a good time to try and wrap it up then focus on some of the other years and plants. Hope some here find it useful in there related endeavors.

Will be updates as new information is discovered and accepted as well as mistakes, typos and such are found

https://www.docdroid.net/LXyvhMS/66-san-jose-underopenaccess1-2018v9.pdf


For those that are also members of CMF the article is also located in the Library there with all the other articles listed by model year

Its a Big file with plenty of pictures so will take some time to load. Be patient 

Hope it helps others

Thanks for looking

Other items found under the carpet

Looks like your car failed one or more of the inspections and had to be fixed at one point at Ford.  Nice find finding the travelers sheets. Not sure if its a good thing that the car had issues but its just part of its history

I was just being my regular, sarcastic self and attempting a little humor. Granted...very little.

Shoot and I missed it. Guess I need to turn on the little bubble heads and other pictures to get the full understanding  - Two steins raised 

462? Anyone check the hot sheets from 68? Didn't that car get reported stolen in Michigan and never recovered? Hey Dave? 

462 isn't the cars Shelby VIN. 67410F7U00462 as you can see, was not a thermactor car  nor  black interior car

The number was possibly an inventory number from whereever they picked the car up from.
The location is not one typically used by San Jose for the second rotation number so likely not that

Looks possibly like a much later car from the other clues in the picture

Seats can be found with a tag on them identifying the frame and spring combination (seats were delivered incomplete to the car assembly plant)  attached and used by the sub contractor.  These labels were often made from pressed paper/cardboard so they often didn't hold up over time Some were steel metal - haven't looked to establish a pattern of application of the two different materials

The date on the tag would be prior to the cars assembly date but how far before was typical I can't be certain not have enough data to base a guess/estimation on

Thanks, ill reach out to him.  Do you see anything missing besides the choke plate.  Sorry its my first 715:)

Looks like the bracket that holds the choke cable to the vacuum secondary pod is missing

Much better tonight!  You must've fed the hamsters!  Keep 'em rolling!

I think they bought a cat and showed him to the hamsters

That or showed them a picture of Richard Gere

In my neck of the woods we put stickers stating the obvious- NOTHING IN THIS TRAILER IS WORTH YOUR LIFE- That way the bad guys have been warned. Friends have mentioned that if a warning sign has been ignored,locks and alarms have been ignored, that sometimes bad things happen to those doing things they shouldn't be doing................ The legal system agrees......................

You must have moved somewhat recently

I sold three 66's last year for under 95K........

So your the guy pulling the averages down!!!! LOL

Meant in a fun - kidding way Sure miss the Emojis to suggest intent   

Just to be clear since my posting of 6R127 was likely confusing to some and some may have assumed it was a typo. So to be clear. Currently I am using, as we often do, Ford VINs to compare and organize findings since this is a Ford detail not a Shelby one. This allows me to include more data points (Mustangs built at San Jose in this example) which should make the findings more accurate and correct. Since they were built side by side, parts provided by the same vendors and installed by the same workers it's the best practice IMHO

So to be clear - currently the change over point I see indicated is around cars with Ford VINs starting with 127xxx. Since cars were not assembled/finished in sequential order the range is likely a few thousand one direction or another. Plus they (the workers supplying the bins or shelves) likely didn't wait until the bin was empty of all master cylinders before they refilled it.  So you might have had a few stragglers. If the bin held individual cylinders then there may have been no stragglers. 

Hope this helps explain better my earlier post - that I went back and added to.

That is the problem with terms they can and do mean different things to different people and those selling cars or parts can often edge their comments in many ways.  If buying or discussing I always ask whoever is talking or presenting "facts" what they mean by that term. May be "restored" "all original" "unrestored" ........ Since one or two words IMHO are inadequate in communicating all the nuisances.

Cory - Looked through all my pictures and notes and have to offer that I can't find any thing supporting that this is the original one for your car. Nor  the correct style (with fittings) for a car in the 1600's.

Right now I've have examples of no-fitting disc brake master cylinders starting on San Jose built cars starting in the 6R127 range. Ford VIN since survey would include both disc brake Mustangs and Shelbys since there was no difference on the line between the two at San Jose in this detail.  Way, before your car was likely built. Believe 6S1203's is a no-fitting version also but that is just one of many I have records of.  Survey has produced a pretty hard line indicating the change over so the data appears to confirm that range but have started a survey on our site to get more data along with date codes from the master cylinders to back up matching car and unit.

Just thought I should share historical data and info to the discussion

Hey guys, I am no where near as versed as the experts and in the old forum I would just search this topic but in the new world post melt down I will put out to the group attached are pictures of the master cylinder I just pulled out of my car... is this original? And if so or not how do I tell ?  And finally to make this an efficient post is this worth rebuilding?

Cory can't tell from the picture. What is the date code on the bottom?  Its kind of in the shadows.

Some additional pictures from unrestored cars


Decals

8T1803xx


8T03J1924xx




Mats and details close by

8T03S1494xx


8T1803xx


8T03J1924xx



Hope this helps