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#31
Thanks for posting. Knew the story well guess it made sense to focus on their most successful models as there were many different models and parts made.
#32
1968 Shelby GT350/500/500KR / Re: GT350 Ammeter wiring
February 04, 2025, 07:10:05 PM
Maybe this will help. The pdf Bob posted above, rotated and converted. Really could use a freshening

#33
SAAC-50 / Re: SAAC-50 Registration OPEN!
February 01, 2025, 04:57:05 PM
Quote from: Mikelj5S230 on February 01, 2025, 12:27:06 PMWhat steps are needed beyond registering for SAAC 50 and paying the Concours judging fee?

If you just want to attend and show a car think that is about it if you live close enough to not need a room. Sure someone will correct that if I've over looked something  :)
#34
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Jerry lights it up!
February 01, 2025, 03:55:54 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 01, 2025, 03:09:19 PMIt isn't so much of tilting the car for the engine. It is the transmission tailpiece hits the ground easily. I think the assembly line just had more room for the transmission to clear? The bell, I don't know about.

Remember or consider that at the station where the engine and transmissions were installed there were two workers above - up with the car, then a worker below in a pit to grab and guide the transmission and tail shaft plus all the clearance the pit provided. Plus plenty of experience
#35
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Jerry lights it up!
February 01, 2025, 03:54:00 PM
From the description I thought there was going to be a larger fire. Glad to see that it wasn't

Is it me, may have missed it, but did someone forget putting the engine plate on before they put on the flywheel?  Not that it would be the first time someone forgot that.

Not sure where the GIANT X on the oil pan came from along with a few other details.

Good job on sliding the engine into place - we all seem to have similar though different practices. Of course editing and such can often make things look easier and smoother.

Hope Jerry get to drive and enjoy the Shelby soon though he may already be doing just that
#36
1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Monte Carlo Bar
January 29, 2025, 06:13:54 PM
Quote from: JD on January 29, 2025, 04:59:37 PMI think he may have meant to weld and re-drill holes in the Monte Carlo bar brackets not the cars' inner fenders.

Possibly - Lets hope so. Just covering all the possibilities  :)
#37
1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Monte Carlo Bar
January 29, 2025, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: trotrof1 on January 29, 2025, 01:57:28 PMWhy not just weld up the holes and rescribe new ones making a template. seems easier and probably cheaper.

If you weld and redrill the holes the evidence may get too much attention in a negative way, if and when the car comes up for sale and is inspected bring with it a concern that the car might not be an original. Other evidence may settle the question but why run the risk IMO

Just a thought and possible consideration. Some jacking,as Cory mentioned, spreading or prying can normally work wonders. They almost never just drop in place without any effort in my experience

Good luck
#38
From the question we can guess he is focused on original finishes for a restoration back to the way the car was originally

The black in the engine compartment would have been a semi-gloss.  There are a number of products typically used for this.

The transition on the firewall to floor is a result of applying the engine compartment black over what was sprayed by hand from below the car in red oxide. typically, it took place somewhere between the vertical section of the firewall and the horizontal surface of the floor and transmission tunnel. Just depended on how car the painter bent over, reached in and how tall they were. No one specific point and the edge with be more of a fade of the black coat to mist then no overspray

A number of the brackets you mentioned are not painted. Best you or he establish a list of the brackets concern with then focus on each one and its original finish

Floor was painted with a red oxide epoxy primer sealer not a flat primer. So its typically smooth and it can have a slight glossiness. This coat was allied using mounted spray jets that the body passed over. This was applied to about where the firewall is to just short of the rear cross member

The next step was a similar epoxy red oxide color applied from the firewall forward by hand.  Over this you would have body color overspray or direct spray from the body being painted then to a lesser amount the black overspray from the rocker panel pinch weld black out process from the outer edge leaving often a shadow from the pinch weld itself. 

Sorry not written a 68 Undercarriage Guide as I have for the other years. Really should, with the help of some others, get that done this year. If you provide him with one of those (they are in threads here on this forum) those may help explain the process though there would be some small differences.  Hope this helps

#39
SAAC-50 / Re: SAAC-50 Registration OPEN!
January 28, 2025, 06:45:41 PM
Quote from: Macstang on January 28, 2025, 02:14:37 PMAs Ron mentioned, the day pass is just $30 available at the gate. In terms of selling out, I've never been to a SAAC Convention where it was so packed that people were turned away at the gate. However, individual parts of the convention can sell out. .....

Another part of the event that "Sells out"/has limits is Concours Judging. There are limits to how many cars can be in each class so there is enough time to judge each car in a timely fashion. Also sometimes moving and positioning which sometimes happens when not a lot of space is available. Don't expect a need for that for SAAC-50

Because of the limited space I suggest that if your interested in having a car in one of the Concours classes and will have a car ready, to get the application in soon. The application process does include a number of steps so don't assume all you need do is to register and pay a fee. Part of applying includes submitting pictures of specific areas of your car and getting them reviewed before your application is accepted.

Really looking forward to a great group of cars this year. Hope to see a lot of you there - Safe travels
#40
Concours Talk / Re: Classic car batteries
January 26, 2025, 04:34:13 PM
Quote from: roddster on January 26, 2025, 12:23:53 PM.................  What I guess I'm saying is that the toppers are eventually going to have to be accepted. This is too bad.

Or everyone using them will just get the same deduction. Any substandard part does not have to be accepted just because something is not easily purchased. Makes it fair and equal for all parties while rewarding those that either searched out or got creative.   

If you follow the "logic" of it should be accepted since the real or reproduced thing is not available,  then a new Shelby should be judged and accepted  (for example) a 66 Shelby because the owner couldn't find a 66 Shelby for sale or their not making them anymore.

Just another way to look at the issue and something to possible reflect on.
#41
Up For Auction / Re: BJ black KR fastback
January 25, 2025, 02:54:32 PM
What??????????
#42
Quote from: NukeGT on January 23, 2025, 03:07:11 PMHappy to help Bob.

Some historical perspective of this issue.
https://youtu.be/UxnC1WW95XE?si=jVDGJ7yqGIvniIVy

Film reminds me of the Oakland Hills as well as a few others I attended over the years.
#43
1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: '69/350H ?
January 21, 2025, 07:44:01 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 21, 2025, 04:41:04 PMWere all the Hertz cars built in a group or were they spaced out all through production? .......

Like pretty much all Shelbys cars were built in singles or small groups (in a day or so not in a line one after another according to workers at the Ford plants) so as to not disturb normal production. In the case of 69's they (Hertz models) were scatted over many months at Dearborn based on the production/completion dates from Marti reports
#44
SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Unusual dealer promo
January 20, 2025, 05:40:37 PM
Don't recall any other college color promos. Thanks for sharing
#45
Quote from: SFM6S087 on January 19, 2025, 06:17:12 PM
Quote from: Corey Bowcutt on January 19, 2025, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: chris NOS on January 19, 2025, 04:48:08 AM5S383 sold 990 000 !!! that's a record for a street car , i guess 2 guys really wanted it !!
Few Cobra were bided less than that ...
6s...Carry over sold 418 000 it confirm the special desirable valuable  satus of those 252 cars.


I looked over that carryover car.  Someone had popped the VIN plate off thru one of the rivets.  There was no ford VIN under the plate.  The car said all VINs were verified so maybe that has an explanation.  But it would make me nervous.

Corey

I cannot say for certain if this is the case for 6S119, but many carryovers did not get the Ford VIN stamping in the usual place under the Shelby VIN tag. Rather, it got stamped further out on the inner fender apron, and is usually covered by the lip of the outer fender. I'm currently aware of 31 carryovers like that.


I took Corey Bowcutt comment to report a lack of any VIN not just one stamped of a ways by an operator. Lack of any would be unusual and a concern IMO. Of course no one should read that the slightly off normal driver side forward VIN was a Shelby only detail for that production period but just another Mustang one that became a Shelby feature for those cars