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#1
Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 18, 2025, 11:54:58 PMYes Shelby American built and raced cars after 1967. I know Shelby campaigned 68 and 69 race cars in Trans Am .
I'd challenge your "built" statement. In 1967 Shelby American was allowed to build their TA cars following the specs provided them by Kar Kraft. The 1968 and 69 cars were provided (loaned) to the Shelby Racing Company by Ford. After the first couple 1968 races Ford even dictated that Shelby Racing must use the engines as provided by Ford. When the contract expired in 1969 Ford had their cars and spare parts sent to Bud Moore Engineering. In late (Aug?) 67 after Ford took over production of the GT350/500 cars Carroll Shelby had 2 contracts with Ford. (Ford no longer had any business relationship with Shelby American) One went to his newly formed Shelby Racing Company. It was to campaign Ford Mustangs in the TransAm series. The other was a personal services contract (similar to the one they inked with him in 2005) to assist Ford with their sales and public relations efforts related to Shelby branded cars built by Ford's wholly owned subsidiary Shelby Automotive. Ford closed Shelby Automotive when Carroll's personal services contract ended and they could no longer use his name. Basically any racing other than TransAm done by Shelby after the 67 LeMans win was done by Carroll on his dime and not as a Ford factory backed team. 
#2
Slight mention of the car here - https://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?2279-Photos-When-Ford-Went-Can-Am-Racing&p=59797#post59797

Titus bought(maybe car 1 - sans engine) and stripped (trans, suspension, fuel tanks) it for a car he built. It was an unsprung ground effects car with a big fan to hold it down (ala Chaparral). The frame was very light tube and you slid another tube inside of varying thickness to adjust the chassis deflection on various tracks. It had a Traco Buick in it. Rick Titus bought the frame sometime in the 90s and it hung on his shop wall for many years. The inner tubes had rusted in place and no amount of WD40 and heat could get them to budge. It like the original ended up in a landfill. The original in the San Fernando Valley and the Titus car in Las Vegas.
#3
Parts For Sale / Re: Engine for 6S286 found
March 17, 2025, 12:17:11 PM
Quote from: tesgt350 on March 17, 2025, 07:00:49 AMSAAC has Both Numbers don't they?

Yes - but Howard won't confirm the Ford K# VS Shelby SFM# connection unless he is provided both numbers.
This is a simple way to prevent someone creating a car from only having an engine or SA tag.
#4
Parts For Sale / Re: Engine for 6S286 found
March 16, 2025, 10:45:20 PM
How do you know it's from 286? Yes I know there is a Ford serial number on the block but how did you match it to an SA number?
#5
Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 15, 2025, 03:46:07 PMAround me Ads currently list 12 oz R 12 cans for 25-35.00.
Buy a bunch and smuggle it to SAAC 50 - you'll make a fortune. The Enviro Safe R12 substitute is about $25 a can here and real R-12 hits 100. Since they no longer make it all that is available is old stock and what has been recovered when they junk old systems. I've still got 1/2 dozen cans tucked away in the garage. Here in CA there is even a $10 deposit on the 134 self recharge kit - they don't want you tossing the empty can in the landfill.

Deposit Refund Requirements:
Consumers will only receive the $10.00 refundable deposit when all three requirements are met.
1. Consumers must submit a receipt or valid proof of purchase.
2. Container must be returned within 90 days of purchase date.
3. Container must not have been breached, opened other than self-sealing valve.
It is illegal to and NO person shall dispose or destroy any small container of automotive R-134a unless performed in accordance with Section 95360 et seq. of California Code of Regulations.

Effective on January 1, 2010, California State Law requires that all small refrigerant container purchasers must pay a $10.00 deposit per container. Small R-134a container/can is any packaging that is able to hold more than 2 ounces and less than 2 pounds of refrigerant gas.

#6
Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 14, 2025, 11:56:45 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on March 14, 2025, 11:48:25 PMGood luck finding R12 rather than one of the substitutes -

Not hard to find by me. I just did a quick check and found about 25-30 different amounts of R 12 for sale locally in my KC area on facebook marketplace. I can't believe my area is anything special and suspect it is the same way in most larger metropolitan areas.
Real R12 is pricey and rare around here ($60-100 a can at swap meets). There are a lot of substitutes. We used to get R12 out of Mexico and it had propane mixed in. It worked but you were always worried about leaks. (Using propane in an R-12 system can potentially improve the Coefficient of Performance (COP) due to its higher volumetric capacity and lower refrigerant charge requirements, but it's important to note that propane is flammable and requires careful handling. )
Dichlorodifluoromethane (R-12) is a colorless gas popularly known by the genericized brand name Freon its manufacture was banned in developed countries in 1996, and in developing countries in 2010 out of concerns about its damaging effect on the ozone layer.
#7
Good luck finding R12 rather than one of the substitutes - that do work ok and are compatible with the old oil. 134 has a smaller molecule so it will leak out of the old style rubber hoses. You need to swap over to the barrier (teflon lined) hoses to use 134. You'll want to replace the drier too.

#8
SAAC Forum Discussion Area / weather
March 14, 2025, 09:17:17 PM
Fear not
#9
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 1967 side stripes ?
March 11, 2025, 12:30:03 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 11, 2025, 11:49:54 AMI would suggest loading the doors and fully attaching fenders before you stripe the car.
+1 - the car should basically be finished (gaps adjusted, etc) when the stripes go on.
#10
Wanted to Buy / Re: Rmodel gas tank splash bucket
March 10, 2025, 03:47:39 PM
Contact Jim Murietta at OVC (Orig Venice Crew) he's having them done for the continuation R Models. Also Craig Conley - Paradise Wheels - was making a lot of the R Model parts.
#11
Quote from: FL SAAC on February 21, 2025, 11:34:52 AMYou have two choices, leaded, 91-octane variety and an unleaded, 95-octane fuel

I would mix those puppies and end up with a some what leaded 93 blend

Lead has a diminishing effect 1 gram could raise the octane 20 points but 3 grams may only raise it 25-30 not 60.

Ethyl really caught on for aircraft engines. Dow Chemical teamed up with Ethyl Corp to extract bromine from sea water at a plant in NC. Bromine is used in Ethyl. https://www.dncr.nc.gov/blog/2016/01/10/bromine-extraction-kure-beach It was such a vital resource a German sub fired a couple shots at it. They missed as the Japanese did who fired on the west coast oil fields. It closed after the war and they moved the operation to Texas. It took 2,000 gallons to make 1 pound of Bromine and they were producing 15,000 pounds a day. That's 30,000,000 gallons of sea water a day.

Lead is an element (symbol Pb) and has a number of industrial uses. For racing fuels, lead is not used by itself... it's actually added in the form of a mixture called Tetraethyl Lead (TEL). TEL is a liquid which makes it easier to store and mix into racing fuel.

Lead is used in racing fuels because it's a very effective octane booster. As a matter of fact, leaded fuels are often credited for allowing higher compression, higher efficiency engines in World War II era aircraft. Increased power made some WWII airplanes like the P-51 Mustang legendary performers!

Just a little bit of lead in gasoline can raise octane by about 20 octane numbers. This is why you don't see many unleaded racing fuels with octane ratings much over 100, while their leaded counterparts can get close to 120 octane.
#13
These were fun shoots. The camera makes a scan rather than 1 snap. I remember some people running to the opposite end and appearing in the photo twice.
#14
Windy City Region SAAC / Re: Illinois I-pass sticker
February 25, 2025, 05:45:57 PM
Put the sticker onto some clear vinyl static cling material. Easy to remove and put back on. For best results spray a little windex on the glass and squeegee the vinyl to get the bubbles out.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1623875-REG/silhouette_media_cling_clr_clear_window_cling_8_5.html?ap=y&smp=Y&srsltid=AfmBOooQDZk0K59xUH-N_6q59Yex5SMelNbdnRtU96nUEe6Cpvu4xmoLDhI&gQT=1
#15
Windy City Region SAAC / Re: Illinois I-pass sticker
February 25, 2025, 12:06:31 PM
The website shows that you stick it on the inside of the windshield behind the mirror. I can't see how that would cause any damage. Could you make a bracket that would use the mirror bracket screw and still let it be scanned?
I mounted my transponder with a 1" square of clear dualock. https://www.amazon.com/3M-Dual-Lock-Reclosable-Fastener/dp/B007OXK272