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Messages - 98SVT - was 06GT

#1
Some Downey Auto Center history - where it was first sold
https://www.thedowneypatriot.com/articles/looking-back-on-downey-ford
#2
The Lounge / Re: Graveyard of car washes
Today at 08:17:32 PM
2 of our local places have closed and been replaced with vac your own and drive through the tunnel past the big wind at the end to dry it. They have a club you join https://blisscarwash.com/memberships/ $23 a month and $10 per wash looks like the best deal.
The last local full service place is charging $31 and of course you've gotta add $5 for a tip - I don't think they'll be around much longer
#5
Quote from: Jim Herrud on July 17, 2024, 12:07:11 PMI had my '97 Corvette for 22 years and would likely be driving it today if I could find electronic modules for it. In 2019, both the engine module and the dash module went tango uniform.
A friend did a GM roundtable while he was working at Hot Rod. They said they were tired of being sued everytime a wheel fell off a 57 Chevy and wanted cars to last 7 years. They said there were new buyers and used buyers who each kept cars 3-4 years. They said it could be accomplished with the electronics. A drop dead date in the software and making replacement parts so expensive it's be cheaper to get a different car. Manufacturers attempts at locking the aftermarket out of the electronics is a big step toward their goal. EV battery replacement cost is another step toward planned obsolescence.
I bought a survivor garage kept 30,000 mile 85 Vette - worse excuse for a performance car I've ever seen. Every couple months it would throw a random code. Nothing wrong and a different code - a real PIA. Sold it to a guy in New Zealand. Made a couple grand on it so I was happy about that.
#6
Ask the seller if he has a letter from Howard Pardee that verifies the VIN (Ford v Shelby). If not ask the seller to give you the Shelby VIN and also the Ford VIN from under the plate (or RF fender) - you can then check those with Howard. If he's not willing or if the Ford VIN does not start 6R09K walk away.
#7
Condition, condition, condition. I think what you want to know is how much an original engine adds to the value of the car. In a perfectly restored car it will add more than an original motor (needing rebuild/restoration) in a roach of a car. The engine (long block) sitting on the floor has no more value than any other HiPo - since it's the same as any other HiPo. The correct ORIGINAL aluminum parts and carb will add value. Of course you need to take the "numbers matching" hype with a grain of salt and do a lot of investigating since some restorers have been known to stamp correct numbers on the block.
If you have a HiPo with a VIN Howard can tell you if it was in a Shelby - but he won't tell you which one.
#8
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Slash
July 16, 2024, 10:35:35 PM
Quote from: S7MS427 on July 16, 2024, 10:32:38 PMLooks like it might be an Eleanor.  If that's the case, he's welcome to it.
+1 - the rear wheel width (slight flare?) and steering wheel are a couple good indicators.

The FakeBook page the pic is from says - Slash with his 1967 Ford Mustang GT500 Fastback

Lots of errors in this article and pics from several sources - https://tork.buzz/classics/Slashs-Dream-Machine-The-Mustang-that-Captivated-the-Musician-20240711-0015.html



#10
SAAC-49 / Re: SAAC-49 Event Schedule
July 16, 2024, 04:19:46 PM
Quote from: rkm on July 15, 2024, 05:23:25 PMIf anybody is looking for rooms at the Hampton Inn, I just wanted to let everybody know that today I cancelled three reservations for the headquarters hotel.

Don't be surprised if you call for these rooms and have to pay the going rate since it's past the deadline for the SAAC discount block of rooms. 
#11
Appeals / Re: 1966 conv gt350 pictures
July 16, 2024, 03:26:25 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on July 08, 2024, 08:59:40 AM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on July 07, 2024, 10:10:03 PMWith the addition of this latest race, 11,518 items from the Friedman collection are now available on our collections website. Browse just the latest set added, or peruse all the Dave Friedman imagery, by visiting our digital collections.

a link would be appreciated
Thanks

https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/archival-collections/
#12
Ford V Fiat - no comparison.....  Henry's been slapping the Italians since 1966.

Fiat acquired a 50% stake in Ferrari in 1969, and increased its ownership to 90% by 1988. Enzo Ferrari held the remaining 10% until his death in 1988.
In 2014, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles N.V. announced that it would separate Ferrari S.p.A. from the company. In 2016, Ferrari became an independent, public company after FCA sold 10% of its Ferrari share in an IPO, and distributed the remaining 80% to FCA shareholders. Piero Ferrari, Enzo Ferrari's son, also retained 10% of the company. As of February 2023, Exor N.V., a Dutch holding company controlled by the Agnelli family, is Ferrari's largest shareholder with 24.4%.

Fiat had to sell Ferrari to get the rest of the cash they needed to buy the last of Chrysler from the UAW health trust fund - Chrysler has been a drag on their bottom line. They split it into 3 companies Chrysler-cars Ram-trucks Jeep-well, Jeeps. They've tried to sell Chrysler and keep Ram & Jeep with with no takers.
#13
The Lounge / Re: Great F1 Win for Hamilton
July 12, 2024, 09:24:54 PM
Rain, bad pit stops, etc. Given enough chaos even Danica Patrick won an Indy race.
#14
Henry started building the River Rouge in 1915. It fulfilled his dream of raw material in one door and cars out another door in 1927 when The Model A was introduced. They were able to assemble up to 9100 cars a day then plus producing all the engines and many of the other parts and stampings that went to the 34 US and 17 foreign assembly plants. It covers nearly a square mile. Many of the methods they developed then are still in use today.

The Deuce when he was 2 with help from his grandfather, lit the first blast furnace at Ford Motor Company's Rouge factory in 1920. Two years later, his younger brother Benson Ford, three years old at the time, lit the Rouge's second furnace with the same torch. Each of the furnaces, nicknamed "Henry" and "Benson", produced 1,200 tons of iron a day.

The steel plant has been independent from Ford since the 1980s. The plant has had several owners over the years, including:
Severstal: A Russian company that purchased the bankrupt Rouge Steel around 2004
AK Steel: Acquired the plant in 2014 for $707 million.
Cleveland Cliffs: Acquired the plant in 2020

Henry didn't like the glass quality he was getting so he added a glass plant to the Rouge in 1925. When a test driver was cut up in a crash he developed safety glass for use in the Model A. In the 80s Ford was producing the complex rear window for the Chevy Camaro. Ford told GM their design was bad and after a lot of warranty work they let Ford redesign it (thickness and mounting).

Henry was buddies with Firestone but built his 5,500 sq mi Fordlandia in Brazil along with rubber plantations (it was one of his few failures) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordl%C3%A2ndia

It wasn't just cars. What do you do with all the little scraps of wood from making the bodies and shipping crates? Henry had bought nearly 500 sq mi of forest with the help of his cousin (and Ford dealer) Edward Kingsford. They came up with a new process for pressing blocks of reconstituted char. The innovative charcoal briquet was initially marketed under Ford's own brand, it was eventually renamed Kingsford Charcoal in Edward's honor. It got so big they built a plant in the Upper Peninsula to produce it. Anybody got a Ford picnic BBQ set?
#15
Quote from: pbf777 on July 10, 2024, 11:14:14 AM.... when the full-body hazmat suits came out

Runs bad and has mold - how long did it sit at the bottom of the lake?
Home Depot paint suit and a mask that won't stop anything. Getting serious for the 2 of them would add about $1,200 to the production costs for a good suit and respirator. https://www.grainger.com/product/784RK5?gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:GGL:CSM-2295:4P7A1P:20501231&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw4ri0BhAvEiwA8oo6F7lNhKOcCOk7BV1RDH_06WNMEHQnPC7mNRiZtRZKWx44CX6JgIYpHBoC3QgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds