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Hi,
Just a quick update on the rail invoices-much like Richstang points out-it appears all cars involved in the rail incident had a second invoice made up for the replacement car sent.
I have RR06 which is for 67210F7A02759 Replaced by 2762 and it has a stamped shipping date of June 22 ...as mentioned previously we think the derailment happened between the end of June and
the July 4th weekend....still possibly as late as  July 7th and we finally know that Santa Fe Salvage had a holding yard in San Bernadino we also have learned that the salvage price was most likely based on the "cost "  price of each unit,and the salvage company had to buy the entire shipment. Still many unanswered questions but a few blanks filled in. Now if we could find a former Hadley
transport driver and learn their process it would be huge to help figure this out completely...I hope to learn the date most of all.
Thanks for all that have contributed to this and please keep at it !!
Regards R.R.   

Hi 67 Fans,
Just a few comments-0017 should be on this list. Also I am thinking 0003 was built with a flat cap and it was changed along with much of the interior to look more 1968.
Would like to also ask if anyone out there knows of any cars on the following list as the owners are in the registry but have not been to any conventions/shows recently.
0007-0049-0053-0059-0060-0065-0072-0075. And the 2 cars that are real different would be Lowells and 0176 both really not part of Shelbys official count of 1967 production.
Thanks in advance R.R.

Hi to all on this subject,
The owner of 1300 lives close to me and last week he said he hopes to attend the Woodward cruise this weekend !!
Great job on the collection of pics Rich!!
Regards R.R.

Hi all,
With a quick check of the registry it appears this must have been a show during the 1967 season. No cars were completed and shipped to Belgium until after Mid December and later....
Really like the Ford G.T. and the go kart display--note the title says 1967-- My bet would be this is #0147 or #0156 and it is a spring 1967 event...we must be able to pin a date on this.
Thanks for putting it up!!
Regards R.R.

Hi Rich and all 67 fans,
I have now found sheets from 84-2549 that are 7 pages and none are retyped.
Great to see these being preserved-and studied. I will send them to you so you can add to the collection.
Regards R.R.

Hi Rich,
I think Jeff S has the biggest collection of these sheets. Maybe check the concourse mustang website or Jeff directly....Hope this helps
R.R.

Hi to all 67 fans !
Just looked at this again from the Ford side and noticed it is column # 63 on the V.O.I. that shows type of audio equipment....so when you are looking over the Marti report please check this
column and see if there is a digit---The report may not have it listed in the options section,yet it may still be on the report if this column contains a digit. Kinda technical but sorta important.
Thanks for showing the pictures of a radio delete car ! I also must wonder if they experienced a parts shortage sometime during production Remember 472,000 Mustangs built was a big
year....and Cougar shared many of the parts....imagine if you had the contract to supply just radios!!! Also wanted to mention that radios and antenna lead in cables both have date codes...
so if the car is apart it should be simple enough to prove the manufactured date at the very least. Also keep in mind dealers could delete an option when and if the car was special ordered (which
was extremely rare for these cars) Now off to find Sgt. Peppers to enjoy !!
Regards R.R.

Hi Rich & all 67 folks,
The Swedish article was courtesy of Texas Swede and he was trying to source it--maybe he can help out once again...it was great to see a completely different set of pics,not to mention the
Swedish writing.I am slowly finding Track and Traffic and the Jan 67 cover shot is awesome....just need to get a copy.
R.R.

Hi 67  fans!!
Just wanted to also mention the May issue of Ford Times has several pics and even a Swedish magazine did an article with several pictures of S.A.I. Imperial highway location.
Regards R.R.

Hi 67 Fans,
Just one other thing to point out as a "Manufacturer"
Shelby had to follow state guidelines and in 67 the vin numbers were way different than anything they had produced prior to this,even the
number of digits....other new stuff would be drivetrain package codes and as a year unique feature the color code....as part of the vin, and even that was revised to add the color code 0 late in
production.The state does not count the "Z" AS PART OF THE VIN.In case anyone was curious. Hope this helps complete the puzzle.....Just my 2 cents for today
R.R.

Hi All "Z" People,
Just a few notes about this--Dave says we may not ever know a total of cars with a "Z" because it would require seeing every car. His comment was a response to my theory of the "Z" being used
as a code for inspected and ready to ship out of state....meaning California. According to the records as of 1996  only 390 cars were reported to have the "Z" and of those only 66 were sold in Cal.
and all but 70 cars had thermactors. I also think it could mean ready to ship by rail,and it would be interesting to see how many "Z" cars were shipped by rail--which again seems to be another
possibility.I really think it is safe to say the inspected and approved theory is good--yet won't be surprised to learn it has other purposes as well.
Regards from R.R.

Hi to all 67 fans,
A HUGE THANKS to Keith for the devotion-dedication,and time spent on all this.
The car in the video with Mr. Shelby and the Ford executive in front of the building shows the front fender emblem centered on the fender...we need to put a date on this.
Several things point this to car #0003 and the date would really help.
The cars driven in the video near LAX are different cars-the "Theme" restaurant is visible and a good landmark--it is also where the brochure photos were done..
Remember #0003 was the first production car finished and was promptly sent to the Michigan car show-Burnt Amber was a new release and they were testing the reaction on people--I dont
think it went over well,Now years later it is a hit,as times and acceptance of rare/different things are o.k. in everyones world.
Thanks again for putting this all together guys!!!!
R.R.

Hi Rail fans,
A quick note 2621 also had body damage which was evident when you looked inside the trunk,right 1/4 panel was replaced-it was bought at a deep discount, which we assume was due to this
repair,and first registered as a 1967 Chevy G.T. 350  in California. So far that is 3 cars all with damage on the right side. Now you know what I know. Thanks to all who continue to attempt to
figure out a 51 year old case.
Regards R.R.

Hi all in SAAC land,
Just to answer a few questions.This was a low speed derailment most likely caused by a wheel bearing failure on the right side of the freight car. Both Shelby's I have seen had right rear damage...indicating the load shifted and caused the damage. The heavy equipment operator said he only buried 1 car in the sand and never said
a location....we were in California when he told me this...also makes sense it was in Ca. because the salvage company was in L.A. and most cars were repaired and then
sold in the L.A. area later in 1967. What is amazing is no one seems to know the process that S.A.I. went through to load cars on to trains for out of state shipment. It
makes sense that they used Fords existing system which we think was from Pico Rivera, yet we can find no proof of this and to date no former S.A.I. employees have remembered much of anything to do with trains, or who did this- so think about this--in the first few months of 67 production more than 90 of the 100 cars finished were sent out of Ca. by rail. Somebody must know the way it was accomplished. I think S.A.I. Simply called the car carrier (Hadley transport) and they trucked the cars to the
rail yard, from that point they linked into Fords distribution system and they were sent to the various out of state dealers....now we just need to prove which yard or
to ask even more questions like who figured out how to direct the shipments.
  Regards R.R.

Hi all,
This is a longtime unsolved cold case..we need several key pieces of info to solve this and I would really like to know exactly when and where it happened...
I met the heavy equipment operator in 1985 that claimed he did the site cleanup of this derailment...he has since passed away. We have seen the rail industry bought/sold/merged so many times
over 50 years that we may not get any more answers to our questions. I have asked if anyone knows who was responsible for car shipment by rail-Shelby had cars shipped this way for years,as well
as by Hadley Transport truck...At this point we only know most of the damaged cars were repaired and later sold. I would be happy to know the process of how a completed car was shipped out of
Shelby American. I think someone at Ford may help and will chase that lead as a next step.
R.R.