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thanks to  the donation  to the project  we now have all brackets  and good timing cover .....from a 1969 302

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 this is exactly why  when we do tours the locations are not given out till everyone is home .

in 1999 the 2 bud moore pans we duplicated were over $5000  it was a massive  amount of work  and the pans were ever evolving  it was an attempt to create a wet sump that acted like a dry sump to get around the rules .

Thanks Phil- is there any context?

i will look there were some vintage pictures  i will see if i can find .

Oh, gosh. I can't tell you how many times I read a "problem" that is disturbing someones ability to get their car together. Oil pans that leak from a bad weld? Really?!, you get the weld repaired and then you get the pan replated.

I grew up in the warbird business, there were no "Freakin' kits. You fabricated what you couldn't buy. If you couldn't fabricate the parts because you were not talented, then sorry, PAY someone who can. But Al Gore invented the internet so now everyone has an audience that they can whine to.

If your pan leaks "Fix it", then move on, next problem? Jeez! What happened to all of the guys that worked on their cars..oh, yeah that became not cool. I've been to guys garages that have no idea what to do....but they have all the tools.

Complain about this rant, maybe the moderator will listen to the complaints of my rant and kick me out of the SAAC group. IDFC. They don't listen to people bi+€# about post count Tony so you think that they will listen to you complain about fix your parts me? Give me a break.

P.S. the quote/end quote Aviad T/A Bud Moore Pan, nothing like the real Bud Moore T/A pan. I showed the new owner my real Bud Moore T/A pan to show him what I wanted. He told me "mine was fake,"

Armondo makes a great pan.

Having constructed  2 bud moore pans  with 2 stage pumps and all the plumbing  / yes i could fix the pan i have and move on but  for 3-400 $  my time is worth more . / I can order one that is clean and ready to go and repair the 2nd pan for  the" other "engine .   this is the 2nd engine i have built for this car and  likely the last  I will put in it . I have brought more cars back from the grave  than most .

the 2 legged doug not  the 4 .      yea the oil pan plan went side ways  the aviad on the 65    was suppose to be on my car but  the t pan  fit like crap .   so then i found the milodon    looks nice till ya put fluild in it to clean  and it leaks .  ohh and apple cider vinegar will remove the nasty gold plating  .

and to clarify the milodon  pan is leaking thru a weld ......  and most of the  other  brands are months out   except  the summit one   Doug !

Armando used to work at Aviad for years so that is basically what you would be buying from him. He is highly regarded in the industry. If I need a pan in the future I will be contacting them.

       Roy

good to know !    have aviad  on the 65

 Has anyone used  Armando's oil pans?   / currently fighting a Milodon  pan that is new  and leaks .

here  is one for sud

would love to give that a home    anyone coming east ? with empty truck ?

Phil, DAR 13558 was what I always used but no one carries it anymore so i switched to ppg concept same number. That now is hard to find so i took my last bit of it and had it matched in UTECH line urethane. Best stuff I've ever used even better than DAR

Thanks Tim

to clarify  i am looking for something better than spray bombs .   paint gun is not an issue here ...  lost in the archives was the previous paint code i used but the formula has changed / system no longer available /