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Early car. Peter Klutt talked it up in a video before the auction. Record price. More than an R model

Which makes me wonder what that Dick Jordan R model will sell for today, May 16, 2026. That should be a $2 million dollar car all day long if one uses this street car as a bench mark. I remember the Chicago Milo Brooks car R model was for sale back in 1998 in Rapid City, South Dakota for $150,000. I suffered greatly seeing that ad in Hemmings Motor News month after month, having been divorced and did not have the money to buy it. I should have taken out a loan.

I'm not sure it would be illegal to stamp a vin on a block. Shelbys were never titled by a vin on the block. Also say someone found a correct block and stamped it and now called the car numbers matching and not say " guarantied original engine "  is that illegal? I'd say not. Unethical? Yes. Now Chevies prior to 1972 if someone built a very rare car where you cannot tell what it is because of the lack of engine vin and sold it as said rare car to me that would be fraud but it might be hard to prove? 

You opened up an interesting question. Here is a quick overview that I am just learning. I only handle state cases but this Federal statute interests me to dive further. As you see, there are exceptions which would exculpate a restorer.

18 U.S.C. § 511 is the federal law that makes it a felony to knowingly remove, obliterate, tamper with, or alter a Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) on a road motor vehicle or motor vehicle part.The OffenseUnder this statute, it is a crime to knowingly:Remove, alter, or tamper with an identification number.Alter or remove a theft-prevention decal (affixed under the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act) with the intent to further the theft of a vehicle.PenaltiesViolations of this statute are considered felonies. Offenders face fines, up to 5 years in federal prison, or both.Lawful ExceptionsThe law recognizes that legitimate repairs or recycling operations may require interacting with identification numbers. The statute explicitly exempts the following individuals from prosecution, unless they know the vehicle or part is stolen:Scrap processors and demolishers who are in compliance with applicable state laws.Repair professionals where the alteration or removal is reasonably necessary for lawful repairs.Persons replacing/restoring numbers in accordance with state laws (e.g., restoring a classic car).

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https://www.mecum.com/lots/1172602/1965-shelby-gt350-fastback/

Link to his site.
  https://randalsautomotive.com/rbr/rbr.html

Impressive array of restorations. I may get their shop to make me a real wood wheel out of a spare 66 wheel I bought with that very intention.

Rest in Peace to him.

Nice, what Wax do you use and about how long will it last?

It seems to last two months or so. I haven't driven the car a lot. It's pure carnauba so the box claims and makes her shine. Some waxes have harsh chemicals like petroleum distillates.

Looked this one over today... the block is stamped with the car's serial number....

... it's Shelby serial number 

Now that's memorable 

My question is whether that Shelby number is in addition to the normally stamped Ford VIN or is the Ford VIN completely missing on that block. My engine also has the sfm number stamped on another part of the block from a prior owner prior to the gentleman I bought the car from, but the Ford VIN remains intact on the block in its customary location and matches the Ford VINs on the body of the car. Disappearing original hipo engines on the Hertz cars were apparently a real thing. Some wanted additional assurance perhaps by stamping the Shelby VIN on the block. I can assure you that the prior owner can competently testify that my block is original to my car despite having the extra number on the block, having owned the car before me all the way back to the early 70s. The Ford VIN is on the block. That creates a rebuttable presumption this is the original block unless overcome by other competent and admissible evidence. Speculation does not count.

From the pictures that were sent to me it appears that the Shelby VIN was stamped where no typical San Jose Ford VIN existed. I think that in this context of stamping the Shelby VIN in the same place where the Ford VIN would be shows a possible indication of lapses in knowledge as it relates to other restoration efforts that have been done to the car over the years. This breach of typical knowledge sends up a red flag that caution should be practiced in evaluating the car for its originality and integrity. At least that is the way many of my peers and myself perceive the issue.

In that context I can see why that would be a problem ethically and possibly legally (not that the two are mutually exclusive).

Here they are on mine.

Looked this one over today... the block is stamped with the car's serial number....

... it's Shelby serial number 

Now that's memorable 

My question is whether that Shelby number is in addition to the normally stamped Ford VIN or is the Ford VIN completely missing on that block. My engine also has the sfm number stamped on another part of the block from a prior owner prior to the gentleman I bought the car from, but the Ford VIN remains intact on the block in its customary location and matches the Ford VINs on the body of the car. Disappearing original hipo engines on the Hertz cars were apparently a real thing. Some wanted additional assurance perhaps by stamping the Shelby VIN on the block. I can assure you that the prior owner can competently testify that my block is original to my car despite having the extra number on the block, having owned the car before me all the way back to the early 70s. The Ford VIN is on the block. That creates a rebuttable presumption this is the original block unless overcome by other competent and admissible evidence. Speculation does not count.

 P21S carnauba does its best under a setting sun.

The blue really pops.  I wonder if the stripes were added on after Hertz.  I seem to recall that the blue ones got the stripes whereas the red ones did not.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/1169816/1966-shelby-gt350h-fastback/

A short original story about an Ouija board and a Shelby Mustang.

Thanks for all that information, Doug. I am going to do a redo on the alignment as far a toe-in but caster and camber are a steeper learning curve. I saw somewhere that replacing the strut rods with adjustable ones makes doing the caster much easier. Something I am considering but need to educate myself on how it is measured and how it all goes together. 843 has a one inch drop that was added by prior long term owner so I went with it. The drop mixed with the 475 pound lowering springs with a 1 inch drop themselves makes the front end sit perfectly. I didn't calculate it that way. I was fortunate.