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#1
Cars For Sale / Don Pikes Falcon
November 15, 2023, 07:50:46 PM
I saw a post on Facebook it was for sale, but no information leading to who has it and what the asking price is. ANY LEADS? The text below is from Facebook.
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A piece of American Racing History, going up for sale.

Everyone that's into cars knows about the legendary Shelby GT350 R but what many don't know is that if it wasn't for the help of its older brother it would´ve never come to be as we know it nowadays.
The car I'm talking about? None other than the 1964 Ford Falcon. Now, some of you may be rolling your eyes and saying "well everyone knows that the Mustang shared its underpinnings with the Falcon, this isn't news'''. And you'd be correct but the thing is, this isn't any ordinary 1964 Ford Falcon.
From afar, you might think it is just one of the 13,840 hardtop coupe's built that year.
If you take a closer look, you might even realize it is actually a race car. If you're a connoiseaur, you might be thinking this must be a Monte Carlo Falcon, one of the 14 prepared by Holman & Moody as part of Ford's "Total Performance" Program. The current owner, thought the same when they found it 32 years ago.
In fact, both you and the owner were quite close. Back in the 60's, Ford ordered its performance partner, Holman & Moody to build 2 Falcons to compete in the A-Sedan class in Daytona and Sebring. This particular example, started its racing life as Walt Hansgen's car for Daytona. Were it finished P7.
After those two races, the car returned to Holman & Moody's HQ in Charlotte NC, and was not utilized until a call came from California. A guy named Carroll Shelby, called on behalf of Don Pike, whom became aware this car was sitting in the shop and bought it for $1 US Dollar, from the FoMoCo. The other Race Falcon, was shipped to Comstock Racing Team, (Ford's Official Racing team in Canada) and later won the Ontario Sedan Championship driven by Team Manager Paul Cooke.
A couple of days later, a Shelby American Truck showed up in Charlotte and picked up the Race Car with no transmission nor engine. Story tells, Holman & Moody had started to compete against Shelby prepping the Cobra's, and they did not want to reveal any powertrain related advantage to the competition. Even though, both teams worked for FoMoCo competition was fierce. The truck, delivered the Falcon to long time Shelby American employee and head of its Engine division: Don Pike.
This information was disclosed in an interview published in The Shelby American magazine in 2013.
Don raced his Falcon for two season's in the West Coast A-Sedan Class.
1964: 12 races - 11 wins, 1 DNF
1965: 18 races - 18 wins
Gary Pike, Don's brother was hired to maintain his race cars together with Bill McLean, son of James McLean who was the General Manager of Shelby American at that time.
After his two dominant seasons, Ford requested through its Director of Special Products Division: Jacques Passino (who was a key player in the formation of Holman-Moody) to Carrol Shelby that the car had to be sold outside the USA to avoid harming the reputation of the newly launched Mustang. The Falcon had been constantly beating them. Don was given a new Group II Mustang to race, which replaced his dominating Falcon.
In fact, as this car spent much of its time in the Shelby American shop, it influenced the development of the 1965 Shelby Mustang GT350 R. Yes, this very car. They even tested independent suspension in this car in an attempt to put in the GT350's but it ended up being too expensive.
For example, the Monte Carlo Bar, which strengthens the front of the chassis gave more rigidity and improved handling through cornering. It can be found in Shelby Mustangs through 1965 and 1966. Mostly placed in the Rally cars due to the rough roads, this car did not have it when it raced Daytona and Sebring for handling and weight-saving reasons.
After it was shipped to Perú in 1967, it had some trouble going through customs but was eventually cleared and raced on multiple occasions by members of the "De Las Casas" family.
In Perú, it raced and beat Shelby Mustangs, including 1965 Compettition models. You might not know this, but 5 of the 34 "R" models were originally shipped to Peru. An outstanding number for a relatively small country. The Falcon set various records and won races throughout the late 60's and 1970's. It adopted the nickname "Looks are the least important", because although some people argue it was an ugly car, it never failed to perform.
Can't argue with them, the yellow paint it had towards its last years racing in the 70's in Peru did not suit it well.
The specs? Well, this car was restored by its original builder, Holman & Moody to its 1964 specifications, including a 289 engine with racing parts such as Cam, Rockers and Heads. It is matched to a T10 aluminum 4-speed transmission. The engine is supposedly rated at roughly 300hp for a car that weights around 1,000kg or 2,200 pounds.
Additionally, the body panels are extremely light as they are fiber glass built, and it has plexi-glass windows. The interior consists of an aluminum dash with the required gauges to race, as well as the original anti-roll cage.
This car that was once abandoned for roughly 30 years, has its story fully documented including.
In fact, Mr. Pike handwrote a letter to the current owner and was in constant communication during the restoration process which started in 2001 and finished in 2003. The car's current color, 1956 Dodge Royal Blue is the color Don remembered it the most during its very successful racing years in the US.
Such letter is not the only piece of documentation, the owner has been extremely meticulous in the saving of documents, magazine articles, and communications that back the uniqueness of this car, and its key role in the development of other performance icon's of the 60's.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/584189309247014/permalink/1095516078114332/?mibextid=Nif5oz

#2
Has anyone compared them side by side to note the difference?  My wheels are restored (albeit worn) originals.
#3
For the first 50 or so 66 chasses delivered (i.e. 253-310), what do we know of the build dates on the ID tags on those AUTOMATIC transmissions?  Does anyone have a tag photo from one of these transmissions, or what was stamped on one???
#4
Concours Talk / Source for 65-6 tunnel snubber plate?
November 29, 2020, 12:34:36 AM
Is anyone aware of someone who has the trans tunnel snubbler bounce plate that is opposite of the 9 inch snubber for 65-6 still in stock?
#5
Up For Auction / Paxton Fuel Pressure Gauge
October 25, 2020, 06:48:19 PM
http://ebay.us/Mm17nS?cmpnId=5338273189 Bidding opened at $99.99

In full disclosure it's mine; taken out of my car as itis incorrect (naturally). "OEM Paxton Supercharger 2 1/8" Fuel Pressure Gauge 0-15# circa late 70s. Condition is "Used".-- 2 ⅛" PAXTON fuel pressure gauge, 0-15 psi, of unknown vintage (but older than 37 years of known ownership) taken out of a '66 GT350 it was incorrect for.  Displays the three red 'V' sparrows after 'PAXTON'.  Face is bright and defect free.  Reads accurately; S-W 240A fuel pump was bench tested for 5 psi, an under-hood gauge read 5 psi, and this gauge read 5 psi when all were installed together in the car. The needle rests a needle-width above zero with no pressure applied.  The only fault I can see is found under a good light at the 3 o'clock position along a 12 mm arc, about 0.5 mm wide. There is a bubble in the original paint and some veining growing along the edge (see photo).  On the back, there is some discoloration of the thin nickel(?) plating from handling.  If you stick the port up your nose it smells of gas(oline).  If your head is up your bumm, you'll smell gas as well.  It has been always installed old-school with a thin copper pipette line directly to a carburetor or fuel line.  THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR AN INTERNAL LIGHT SOURCE IN THIS GAUGE!!! "
#6
Well, the subject pretty much sums up my request. I have not forwarded the question to Craig Conley yet, hoping to capture responses here-in. Craig's kit uses a mechanical pump that equalizes one side of the operation or the other, so I was wondering whether similar pumps were used in the 60s, and what they looked like.  I sure hope they were not a chromed up tart of one sort or another.
#7
In photos, the 013 DLR plates gather so much attention, but the Atzbach collection had a 1B 4101 plate also attributed to the organization.  What was the difference(s) in their application(s)?

I have my suspicions,  but would like a knowledgable answer.
#8
Concours Talk / 65-6 Monte Carlo Bars
August 29, 2020, 03:52:57 AM
Simple right?... well, are they? Had a straight one I may have purchased from NPD for just the end plates, but they don't near cover the contact patch of the one my car has had for years, and the break from one plane to the other is too sharp. So questions start being generated:
1) what is the thickness of an original's flange? Weight?
2) Is there any un-distinguishable from originals out there? From whom?
3) What would/should I look for in a quality piece?

[Background info: My car spent years on the dragstrip so I cannot be confident any part of mine is original to the car]
#10
Given recent discussion of leaky C4 oil pans:
Quote from: GT350AUS on April 28, 2020, 05:40:06 AM
I've constantly got a leak from the pan gasket.

I've removed the pan and straightened the ridge along the bolt holes, refitted a cork gasket and torqued the bolts to 15 foot pounds.

The leak continues.

I've don't it 3 times and still leaks.

I welcome suggestions as to what can fix this problem.

Acknowledging an aluminum pan for a C4 transmission is not original, is there a fully finned no-name pan out there, or one with enough meat so any raised name can be ball milled down to remove the name (or just leave the finned remnants there of)?
#11
Interested in 289 dual holley carbs
C6OA-9510-A, Holley list 3360
C6OA-9510-B, Holley list 3361
#12
I have loved my C7FE le mans cam with standard transmission, bu I doubt the levels of vacuum would work well with a C4 hipo automatic.  I was pleased with the hydraulic hipo cam profile with my cruiser automatics, bu missed the seriousness of the Le Mans.  What has been the group's experience running something more radical than a hipo cam with an automatic?... brand... approx spec, please.
#13
I have loved my C7FE le mans cam with standard transmission, bu I doubt the levels of vacuum would work well with a C4 hipo automatic.  I was pleased with the hydraulic hipo cam profile with my cruiser automatics, bu missed the seriousness of the Le Mans.  What has been the group's experience running something more radical than a hipo cam with an automatic?... brand... approx spec, please.
#14
With adoption of the GT instrument cluster for the '66 model year, what would be the arguments for, and against adding after market gauges under the dash of your 66 '350?... and if limited to ONLY two, what would they be?
Assume you have the Paxton gauges of Fuel Press and Boost already in place.
1) Water temp
2) Oil temp
3) Trans temp
4) Rear Diff temp
5) Ambiant Temp
6) Oil Press
7) Amps
8 ) Volts
9) Clock (same size and housing as Tach, 3 3/16" diameter)

While I have asked to narrow things down to only two; inorder of preference, What would be your top three in a road car - gymkhana ride?  Is there something left off the list you feel should be a top 3 contender?
I left the Accelerometer deliberately to be subject to a separate questionnaire
#15
1965 GT350/R-Model / R-Model Oil Cooler Adapter
July 21, 2019, 02:59:15 PM
Many moons ago, when the prairie grasses grew tall and the buffalo would drown out your wife's jabber; I bought what I believed to be an R-Model oil cooler--it had cobra cast in raised letters on the side.  A reputable vendor, lets call CoAu, Inc. sells a complete kit it says is accurate in details.  Should it have the COBRA lettering on the adapter?  Anyone recently buy such a kit, and what was your experience, and satisfaction?
#16
From this recently compiled descriptions of iterations of intakes versus VIN, I believe I need a S2MS-9424-A intake where the COBRA nameplate was cast as a full rectangle (where-as most have clipped the 'A' for increased distributor clearance). 

#17
The discussion about color changes on a concours participant, ( http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=5278.0 ) brought out the discussion of cars that aren't quite concours.  I believe the current show classes leave a significant number of people from showing their cars, that would otherwise attract a lot of discussion and appreciation for what the cars were, when they were.  Let me throw something out there, along these lines... to attract those cars not otherwise concours correct, but faithful representations of their time and owners... a Period-Correct class.  To prevent it from just being a Concours spill-over, require no less than 2 major and 3 minor visible, owner-performed modifications.  All modifications must be appropriate to within a + - 5 year window of production.  Owners must have documentation of the part/modification being available and practiced within the window.  Anything not documented or outside that window is a deduction, or basis to not be in the class.

While I have thought of benefits to the club, owners, and how to determine definitions for this, I will leave that to further discussion.  Thoughts?
#18
CSX 2000 Series / Oil pan configuration question
April 03, 2019, 02:19:03 PM
There was a discussion in the 1966 GT350 forum about SAI finned aluminum roadster oil pans that bears relevance to the small block cobras:

Quote from: TJinSA on April 03, 2019, 02:13:46 PM
It would also be useful to note there two configurations touted to be "original".  One fits 260s and 289s; the other will accommodate the longer stroke of the '68 and later 302.  The former, to the best of my knowledge was never reproduced.  The later, by design, is an over-counter piece.  They can be distinguished externally by looking at the fins toward the back of the pan.  Original 260/289 pan fins are consistent in depth and height, front to rear.  Over-counter pans, on the other hand, had an additional wedge area cast into the interior of the pan to clear the 302 crank's counterweights. While only about a 1/4", it is visible from the outside because while the fin heights remained the same, the depth of the grooves between them decreased to virtually zero at the point of the end of the wedge taken from the interior. 

Thus is a basis for discussion: "What does original mean?"  Contemporaneous with and for Cobra roadster production, or marketed by SAI for the mass market?
#19
GT40 - Original/Mk V / GT40 & Mirages in Miniture+
March 31, 2019, 11:24:28 AM
Here's a BlogSpot with GREAT format on the GT40s and Mirages you have to visit.  Many in this forum may be familiar with Gerard's blog on GT40s and Mirages in 1/43rd, but I just found them.  It breaks down virtually every chassis, race, and year of the cars, including roundel numbers, position at finish, with drivers, augmenting pictures of them in scale with contemporaneous photos and historical discussion of the real cars.  Started on October 2014, I found it a treasure trove of reference material and entertainment.

Hope you are as pleasantly surprised and delighted as was I:
http://fordgt40mirage.blogspot.com/2014/10/coming-soon.html



#20
Where would I find a List of Judged & un-Judged classes with the requirements as to what is expected in each?