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Messages - J_Speegle

#1
Here you go  Not really a "punch out" like on earlier years. Just the small depression to mark the center of the hole

#2
Quote from: Coralsnake on December 11, 2025, 04:42:21 PMThese are the rear 1967 shocks from my chart:

When you write "rear 1967 shocks" our referring to "C7" shocks not shocks used only during 1967 production. Correct?

Never seen shocks for a 67 Shelby painted blue originally except for service replacements.

And also "anyone knows or has documentation pm -D or -K color codes, " are you including the service replacements in this request?

An additional detail though not for 67 but during 68 production there was a large space added to the engineering number on the side of those shocks. Changes seems to line up with the change to the blue color and is a detail used in the reproduction versions.


The blue example below happens to be a C7ZD and we can see the last letter. Do have a handful of pictures of fronts marked C7ZD- A but we're getting off topic since these are all later shocks


#3
C7ZF18080D1  for the AUTOLITE stamped ones

There are two versions of this shock as far as stamping and when they were made.  Change took place from Dec 66 to Jan 67 at the supplier so you will see these differences show up during the late winter into spring on original cars.

Some early cars have been found with the FoMoCo oval style of the shock with a completely different part number. Shocks are stamped with a slightly different format but the part number is 3829394

Date codes are also stamped if those are important to you also.

Thread on the subject over on CMF
https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=18670.msg121270#msg121270

Hope this helps
#4
Quote from: hertzz350 on December 10, 2025, 06:49:21 AMI wonder what that big hole to the left of the wiper switch is?

Likely for a switch for some purpose. Not unusual to find one added to a Shelby or any other hot rod of the period. If the switch is gone, along with the wiring it will be difficult to figure out why but there may be a clue somewhere under the dash
#5
Quote from: heavy60chevy on December 08, 2025, 10:15:12 AMGood morning,

I realize this is an ancient thread but I'm doing research on this car. I've seen this car for sale essentially all year (SFM6S1825). It may be that it's been on the market for many years having remained unsold. Would appreciate anyone's thoughts on her. FSBO now on a popular collector car website so she's easy to find.

First do not know anything specific about this car other than what was shown in past advertisements and I likely missed some.

Don you'll need to get someone with experience and knowledge to get a set of eyes on the car in person after a decent look at some pictures so that you might eliminate the expense and time to looking at the car in person just in case it does not measure up.  Even if you do have some experience its always helpful to have another set of eyes to find stuff and another voice to help keep a clear head and focus. Plenty of threads on the whole process and the value of such a process.

Lots of cars out there that are much less than what they are advertised as. Finding the diamond or rough diamond in the lot takes effort, time and luck. Yes there is likely a buyer somewhere for every car. Just doesn't have to be the car for you.  Good luck with your choices

Anyone keep track of all the cars that have been for sale - just wondering which car or cars have the record for being up for sale the most in a single year or maybe over the last decade? Just might be fun to know.
#6
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Correct FORD Part #'s
December 08, 2025, 02:04:24 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on December 08, 2025, 12:39:23 PMWhile the part numbers are helpful, knowing the parts is key. Make sure you learn what you need before you go shopping and take someones word

+1 Not all NOS or service parts are created equal  :)
#7
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Correct FORD Part #'s
December 07, 2025, 09:26:58 PM
No. The problem is that you have the Ford parts and the Shelby part so two different sources for the part numbers and the like. Add to this the hundreds of running changes that took place during 67 Mustang production at San Jose and all the ones at Shelby that year. Most consider 67 as the year with the most changes and one if not the more difficult because of all the changes.  You can have one car made up originally with one group of parts and then have another built a couple of weeks or month later with a half dozen of different parts installed at San Jose them a car two weeks later that has six parts different from Shelby than car #2 in the example. And in turn a dozen different part from car #1. There are many threads discussion and showing individual changes have been posted here, on other forums (at CMF we have a running change thread for just a small part of the San Jose running changes) and as articles in the SAAC Quarterly publication that guys like JD have authored many times.

Could be done but a lot of work in my experience. To be assembled easy to use would likely make a time line for each change a required part of the book. Same request for books have been asked since the 80's and all attempts I've seen copies of didn't get far other than a few with limited scopes like the Cobra Jet book printed decades ago and the  Mustang & Ford Small Block V book for example.

All of the following can be of little or great amount of help depending. But you will have to mine the data and assemble you own list and then not everyone selling parts will use part numbers to identify their parts.
 
- Master Parts Catalogs (closer to the year the car was produced the more helpful they are)
- Ford Assemble Manuals
- 67 Shelby Assemble Manual Book that was printed

As far as I's aware no Easy button today.  ::)
#8
1968 Shelby GT350/500/500KR / Re: Holley 735
December 07, 2025, 01:39:38 PM
Nylon washers? Might try going back to the original style instead. Yes they shrink with age and non use but IMO sealed better.
#9
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Group 2 wheels and tires
December 05, 2025, 07:54:24 PM
Here are a couple of shots (less than perfect) from back in the day that have been posted in the past.

#10
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Group 2 wheels and tires
December 05, 2025, 06:24:08 PM
From the 67 Group II Bill of Material

Wheels & Tires
2 15" x 8" x 3/8" NEG offset (rear)
2 15"x 7" x 1/8" Pos off set Magnesium wheels (R model)
4 Cobra takeoff tires (English Goodyear)
#11
Quote from: CharlesTurner on December 04, 2025, 12:46:47 AMIf the car had any of the original suspension, it would be worth evaluating what is there and determining if any of it is good enough to restore. 

Or even source out - find someone who has an original front suspension from a disc brake equipped Mustang that has removed it to replace it all with new reproduction parts. What some guys consider restoring a car. Worth a shot - and since they should be really affordable pick up two sets or at least addition individual parts. Restored and refresh all of them then choose the best and resell the left overs just like so many other parts on the car or when doing some forms of plating
#12
Ask a Registrar / Re: Production Orders
December 03, 2025, 03:07:59 AM
Quote from: TransamEd on December 03, 2025, 01:20:12 AMCharles Turner above probably related to these special orders. (taken from a Microfiche system by a friend decades ago)  (R-model batch order shown here). I sent them back then to Howard. At that time he had not seen them at least.
The later changes were issued more in a handwritten style as supplements.

Those are both 65 examples but yes that is the same forms used during 66 production like I was referring to that I've seen and mentioned in reply #18.  Even the later groups used the same long typed forms but there seems to be handwritten possibly quick notes of changes also produced through the production period at San Jose when needed for one reason or another. Seen very few of the hand written notes in comparison to the add /delete sheets. I haven't in fact seem a hand written change order produced during 66 production come to think of it.
#13
Ask a Registrar / Re: Production Orders
December 02, 2025, 08:03:16 PM
Quote from: S7MS427 on December 02, 2025, 04:37:33 PMSo what is out there that most of us have never seen? What were the actual documents that were used to build the cars we all love so much? ..........

Would that not just be the Add/delete (Special Vehicle Order and Parts Specifications) and the Special Order forms (used for some of the builds like the convertibles) sheets?


Special Order form states under the title - Combined sales order and manufacturing authority to produce vehicles as scheduled

Especially in 67 we find the add/delete sheets in most of the cars so they IMO were likely used the same during 66 production though workers were more mindful about throwing them away rather then tossing/leaving them in each car. Just like build sheets San Jose workers left fewer in the finished cars - often a result of how they used them differently at the sub assembly stations when compared to Dearborn and Metuchen
#14
Something like this

#15
Small blocks with manuals had a one piece (not separate inspection plate or hole) engine plate that separated the engine and transmission bell housing. Is that what you are searching for?