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     I think it's known as a "long-term effect"!   
 
     I'm just joshing with ya!    

     Scott.

Not in the 50s when this was created. I was writing for Kit Car . . . . . . .

    I think you've drunk to much of the "Kool-Aid"! 

    Scott.

. . . . . . without playing pretend

    But actually, isn't that what every "kit" (re-creation, reproduction, reincarnation, replication, continuation, clone, copy, fake, etc.) car is about?  

    Scott.

I would expect Mustang J codes with 28 spline 4 spd 9" and GTs autos maybe, but autos non GT using 8".

    Agreed. As I understand it, "non-GT's, w/ auto, & 3.00 and higher gears", got the 8-inch. 

Didn't all 31 spline traction Lok rears have 4 pinion diffs and 28 spline used 2 pinion diffs?

    Not sure of the breakpoints in usage, but I've witnessed "2" & "4" pinion examples in either spline count.

And Daytona pinion support came w/31 spline rear.

    The "Daytona" type was targeted toward applications which also incorporated the "N-case", and which also generally involved "31-spline" axles; but just note that 31-spline axles didn't necessarily mean you automatically got the others!  Just "never say never" with Ford.   

Ford was too cheap... whoops frugal/efficient to overbuild and they ruled Shelby in 68.

    And this was the frame of mind that started my inquiry!  And when you think about it, did a "J-Code" engine option in a little Mustang really need the "Big-Dog" 9-inch?   

    Scott.

Was a J code 302 4V Mustang a 31 Spline 9" inch?

Yes.9 inch, 31 spline, Daytona yoke.

     Any and all "J-Code" examples, are you sure?   

     Scott.

a 1968 Shelby GT350...

Was a 31 spline, 9 inch with a nodular case,

The id tag you have is from a big block with AC car

    Perfect!   

    Thank you,
    Scott.

KR auto/AC open

    Thank you.

    That's kinda what I was thinking, but just had to ask. 

    So for clarification,  I'm of the belief that a '68 GT350 would have (probably) originally been equipped with a 28-spline, 9-inch axle, utilizing the "C7AW-E" ("single-rib") case and hence the standard pinion support with the "long" 1310 U-joint yoke? 

    Scott.

Yes all 68 GT350's were equipped with 9" rearends.

    Thank you for your response! 

    And "all" being 31-spline "N-case" assemblies also? 

    Scott.

    I'm working on a '68 GT350, 4-spd. cars' rear-end and the question arises as to whether in fact: did "all" GT350's receive 9-inch axles?  Or, is it as apparently as is with the "J_Code" cars (what I might suggest these Shelby's started as) some came with 8-inch rears (perhaps automatic transmission (and non "GT"?) examples with 3.00:1 & higher ratios)?   

    And then if so, next, were they "all" equipped with the "C4AW-4025-B", aka. non-"N", "N-case with the "Daytona pinion support and "1330" yoke?   

    The tag reads:

    (first line)         "DSO - C8ZX-G"
    (second line)    "3  00 8AD 968"

    I got the 3.00 ratio "open" part; perhaps even the "DSO" Dealer Special Order; the "C8ZX" seems reasonable for the '68 vehicle; coupled with the "-G" identifying the unique specification/application; but . . . . . . .?   

    Scott.

Never heard of "Best Gasket"

    See: https://bestgasket.com/about-us/

    Scott.

    I spotted a set on the internet:

    Castings: "C3OE"
    Date Code: "3M23"
    Casting Identifier: "289"
    No "4V"

    O.K., so now, not only do we have examples of "C3OE" & "C5OE" seemingly cast on the same days, we have a set of heads with the date code of "3M23", that are "C3OE" castings, but the one set of mine are "3D18" & "3D24" but they're "C5OE" castings? 

    Scott.

    I believe it's generally accepted that 1972 and older production will exhibit the "three-digit" coding, while after that point the "four-digit" coding appeared. 

    So this pretty much leaves out "1971" as a possible production date. 

    Scott.

  "I will always use BAT going forth"

    . . . . . 

  Scott.

The auction houses have been through this many times, I don't think he has much recourse

    Yeah, they've managed to assert processes that pretty much insulate them from any claims of wrongdoing, no matter how outlandish the claims being made to push the sale might be! 

    A couple of years ago a customer of ours was the high-bidder on a car, this at one of the BIG tent sales here in Central Florida; but unfortunately, it died going down the road less than a mile from the event; and then he proceeded to have it towed-in to us to "fix".

    Upon inspection we came to the realization that the vehicle wasn't as represented and possessed two V.I.N.s!     One in the more accessible and more frequently referenced location characterizing the car as one was lead to believe, that of a less common and more valuable rendition.  But then others (more than one example), in the not so accessible and less readily available places that presented the car as was more commonly outfitted and obviously less valuable; and not worthy of the bid!  We notified our customer as to our observations, he contacted the auction house, they said: "so-sad-too-bad for you, read the fine print"! 

    But then, because the auction house wants to milk every last dime out of a sale, they also practice (unless your a "licensed dealer") forcing the buyers at their events to pay them ("processing fee") to process the paperwork.  But this takes a period of time, and as this was only the next day or so (Monday after the weekend), he hadn't received the tile-work yet.  So I told him to contact the auction house, whom was acting as a licensed dealer at this point, and officially notify them of the melee so that they were "aware", and then that if they continued forward filing the paperwork based on the now known anomaly, they'd be a participant in a known fraud along with knowingly processing fraudulent paperwork to the D.M.V.; which even if only the lesser penalty, might be the loss of their State of Florida Automobile Dealers' License!

    Post that conversation, and since one of the few things they do "guarantee" is that they 'will' deliver a "good" title, they begrudgingly reversed the sale, but then of all things, even though he had bought several other vehicles from them previously, "band" him from bidding in the future!   

    What friendly people!   

    Scott.       

    They are currently on "galactic back-order"! 

    Scott.