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Messages - Bob Gaines

#1
Original assemblyline driveshafts did not have Ford part numbers on them . I have seen some service replacement drive shafts with part numbers on them. The numbers on the assemblyline tube was a MFG ID number and not a Ford part number.
#2
Quote from: Kent on September 22, 2026, 04:56:14 PMSomeone here maybe got some pictures of the area of the yoke where the part number is and the date? I have 2 driveshafts here where one is 100% from a 1967 GT500 and one is installed in a GT500 but from what I see so far it has just the dot in the center of the driveshaft yoke and the ford oval. Maybe its just dirty and there is a part number also and a date not sure yet as the installed yokes are hiding it maybe.
Kent, keep in mind that not all drive shafts had the stenciled numbers. The tubing was sold in long lengths with the stencil painted numbers every so often. The tube was then cut into the need driveshaft lengths . It was the luck of the draw if a given drive shaft received a stencil painted number or not. Your driveshafts may not originally had the numbers on them . 
#3
1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Picture needed
September 22, 2026, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on September 22, 2026, 05:38:57 PMBob looks the same. Not at home but out of state but had a friend send me some pics of his and I sent them to Pete.
Apparently not the same then if it shouldn't have the post.
#4
1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Picture needed
September 22, 2026, 07:23:42 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on September 22, 2026, 05:38:57 PMBob looks the same. Not at home but out of state but had a friend send me some pics of his and I sent them to Pete.
Gary, re read my post #3. The parts are finished different for the reasons I posted.
#5
1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Picture needed
September 22, 2026, 07:21:12 PM
The picture of the Z bar is not the same as the one on my 69 GT350. The peg should not be there IMO. The hole that the peg is in is the hole where the lower anti rattle return spring attaches. If the hole in the peg was used for the springs attachment point it would put the spring too close to the engine block side.
#6
Quote from: Shawn on September 22, 2026, 04:21:21 PMNPD sells them without the engineering numbers and holes drilled in the side for some reason.
NPD doesn't have them have them and don't know when or if they will have them again.
#7
Parts For Sale / Re: 67 Mustang NOS Tie Rod End For Sale
September 22, 2026, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: Fast Fords on September 22, 2026, 03:47:34 PMI have one outer Nos tie rod end for sale. The part number on the Ford box is C7ZZ-3A130-A. This is a unused Ford part that is in good condition. It is staring to get some light surface rust on it. The boot is in excellent condition. Price is $75 plus shipping. Email gandcmurphy@rogers.com if interested. Thanks.
It is not just 67 . 67-69 (Shelby's it was used up until 4/69) It doesn't really matter if the boot is in excellent condition or not from a concours stand point because it is a 1970 boot. Unfortunately all of the 1970 tie rods are going to be for the bigger suspension. The good news you can get a correct boot with the metal ring from Scott Fuller https://www.scottfullerreproductions.com/catalog/item/4595229/6309844.htm .Best of luck with your sale.
#8
Yes a much needed part. Cast iron would be best but aluminum would be a cheaper second best alternative IMO.
#9
1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Picture needed
September 22, 2026, 02:59:53 PM
Quote from: Redmach70 on September 22, 2026, 01:55:55 PMIs it different from standard 351 Mach 1?You cannot view this attachment.
Clutch rod and the chassis side bracket were bare steel on the assemblyline part. Most later service parts are plated .
#10
Quote from: JFriend on September 21, 2026, 08:32:48 PMMy originals were in terrible shape, warped, cracked, many of the rivet holes mostly broken out. So I picked up a set of Branda's fiberglass ones, and they were pretty... ok. Did take some trimming here and there, a little heat and bending, and they're not perfect. But as good as I've been able to find for the job. There was someone (not sure if it was here?) who was attempting to recreate the originals in the original type plastic - were predicted to be very pricey, but would have been the only game in town, so... Seemed that effort kinda vanished at some point, maybe someone has a link to that?
The effort did not vanish but was completed. If you check the link the OP announced that the 4 piece set is 1000.00 . If you want to move forward I suggest sending a PM to him.
#11
Concours Talk / Re: 67 GT stripes
September 22, 2026, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: 6s2055 on September 22, 2026, 11:08:34 AMA recent conversation with a friend asked if I knew if there was a point deduction for LeMans stripes since they were built without them from SA. Didn't know the answer. What is the answer?
Yes there typically is a deduction for the reasons mentioned. Of course if a owner could come up with reasonable proof of application prior to delivery to the first customer when new then a pass could be given. However I haven't seen that in over 30 years of judging but I suppose it could happen.
#12
Up For Auction / Re: 9F02R480317on BAT
September 21, 2026, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on September 21, 2026, 03:03:10 PM
Quote from: Special Ed on September 21, 2026, 11:54:14 AMHave never seen a body colored grill area before on 69 shelby.
many mistakes when  this car was restored/repainted as I'm sure you know Ed being a judge. The typical using hex washer bolts to hold the front valance on a car instead of the painted bumper bolts.
I think you meant to say painted carriage bolts
#13
Quote from: Terry Curry on September 21, 2026, 04:03:41 PMInteresting that you brought up the door panels, Burtons said that they can get them but they have a narrow window in getting them. Has anybody ordered door panels from Burtons?
Quality panels if so?
I believe that the "door panels" context here is the aluminum panels and not the vinyl deluxe door panels. If you in fact mean that you talked to Burton about the deluxe vinyl panel than that is something that they do not make in house like they do the aluminum panels. I would expect those to be a aftermarket part similar to what NPD or Kentucky Mustang sells. You of course can confirm the mfg by contacting Burton directly.   
#14
Up For Auction / Re: 9F02R480317on BAT
September 21, 2026, 12:45:32 PM
Quote from: Special Ed on September 21, 2026, 11:54:14 AMHave never seen a body colored grill area before on 69 shelby.
The pictures certainly illustrate a good reason why compared to the factory silver. Yuck
#15
1968 Shelby GT350/500/500KR / Re: Shelby part #’s ???
September 20, 2026, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: 68blk500c on September 20, 2026, 04:22:50 PMYes, it appears to be a quality repro part.  Engineering # was probably varied on purpose?
A Nobel thought by a gentleman. I am more cynical and feel it is more likely based on other reproductions that have come to market that the MFG did not think that it was that important to be that exact. especially back when that reproduction letter panel was first made 25 plus years ago.