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Just a quick update,
G.T. 108 is in  the museum in Colorado. G.T. 109 was Jeffries/Mecum's car and the car in the ad appears different than either.....still a mystery.Important to keep all eyes on this one.
R.R.

Hi 67 fans!
Knowing exact dates are the best when learning about these cars. 832 appears to be a March build so
It most likely had inboard lights when built. Many of us have seen cars with a combination of parts-like a glass hood and steel framed trunk, but they are not as common. Bob's theory about collision is a typical scenario, as it was cheaper to replace a hood vrs. Labor to repair a damaged one.
Just a suggestion: if you have original parts they are worth repairing. Most reproduction parts are easy to identify and often involve hours of labor to make fit the car. Hope this helps answer the questions.
R.R.

Hi all,
Would like to know where the parts/car came from to create G.T.101 Which is apparently in France.
In pictures it looks much nicer than the car on e-bay. Someone spent serious dollars. Good thing we have registrars to keep track of this stuff.
R.R.

Hi to all,
After re reading this (with boots on) They don't really claim a number. One picture shows a White
Car with a cammer in it in a photo album and I doubt it is this car. G.T. 109 Was owned by Mecum
And restored to it's Le Mans time frame....won awards every time displayed. It should not be a big
Shock that the car advertised is/has been constructed from a spare tub and has no "history" that would be the case as it seems presented. The roadster body and the cammer engine were replaced early  in production. Hope somebody is able to keep track of where this  car ends up.
R.R.

Hi all,
First off why would you use e-bay ?
Second IF this is really the car Dean Jeffries did own-he was planning to run a 256 cammer, and had it in place at one point. Would really like an opinion from Ronnie Spain and Harley Cluxton. Real
Million dollar question is how it is on paper? The title should show or expose reality.
In this price range hopefully any potential buyer will do their homework.
Going to be interesting to follow.
R.R.

Hi Clint,
Thanks for the DSO info. Turns out a car in that group is one familiar to me. It has had many different engines over the years so it would not help us with dates. Current engine is a killer 427 Tunnel port. Hope Jeff's survey results show a good example of what is normally expected. 30-72 days
Seems very realistic. Also remember these engines had a big warranty history so it is another reason dates are important. Agree 100% with Bob on such a narrow window not "normally seen" Do you know any history that is documented? It may hold important clues.
R.R.

Hi Clint,
First we need to know where you have sourced the dates from. The time window of part production of sub assemblies to assembly of car is based on several factors and can change as production gets completely up to speed. With so many cars produced in 1967 it was critical to have the process as perfect as possible. This often shows a narrow window or shorter time gap for major parts. Just imagine 472,000 plus Mustangs all being complete running cars and you start to comprehend what must take place to make it coordinate. For your car in particular it would be nice to compare it with others built in the same dso group. I think more attention should be given to date codes and they are critical to prove how "Genuine" a car is.
R.R.

Hi all,
The Ford change to blue should be noted in Bob Mannel's book. As mentioned and well put by Pete , Bob
And Jeff....we will see mistakes/human error and rules change and owners that are opinionated, as well as very hard to work with. Had to work with one years ago that duplicated his door panels in leather,then
Thought we would not see the difference. The workmanship was incredible and the solution was to change his car classification to modified. He found a good loophole in the MCA rules which have vastly improved since the 1980's  Back to the original question of engine color on carryover cars the simple answer may be Black, unless documented proof is provided.
R.R.

Hi to Mark and all,
Simple story....was lucky to have good teachers and to quote my dad as one."Always read the shop manual." To quote another from high school "Every thread gets treated with something after it is cleaned and inspected.", Such as: oil-assembly lube-teflon-antisieze-thread locking compound-thread sealer. (His only dry assembly was wheel studs.) That being said. Section 2-41 of the 1965 shop manual gives torque specs as follows:caliper to mounting bracket 45-60 ft lbs
                              Mounting bracket to spindle 35-45 ft lbs
In the assembly section it says use loctite, and verify a firm brake pedal before moving the car.Many new fasteners are treated and it is a visible color. Loctite has many grades and RED is typical for brake calipers. Car looks extremely nice and should be awesome to see completed!!

R.R.

Hi Mike,
Looks like a good manifold if this is the only thing modified. Would be very wise to clean up and sell if you don't need it.
R.R.

Hi to all,
Looks like you need a contact in England. Maybe someone in the AC Owners club could help. Good luck on your search!
R.R.

Hi again,
The Ford spring rating is representing total capacity. The Eaton chart shows lbs. Per inch thus the difference. Can be confusing yet it is still done this way by Ford.
Hope this explains it simply.
R.R.

Hi to all,
Just to add to the excellent responces from Bob and J.D. If you look on the chart provided the initial build had lighter rated springs (AM stamping 625 lb.)After mid November they were AR stamped and rated 665 lb. This should give you proper info to get replacements if you really need them. Originals can be rebuilt and often are.
May suggest talking to a spring shop as a next step....wouldn't want the car to end up looking like a 4x4.
Regards R.R.

Hi Roy,
From the Ford Side Shelby was set up as a fleet type account. He had several people on his team..Ray Geddes and Gary Nuznoff were key players in the ordering process and were with Shelby right from the beginning of S.A.I. Both were from Ford and were key in planning the Shelby Build each year,as was Chuck Cantwell.
 
On the Shelby side of production they must have had forms to follow and I seriously doubt any were computer type. Howard will hopefully be able to help with this.
R.R.

Hi folks,
Maybe you are looking for the top cover for a top loader transmission??
If so David Kee makes a nice reproduction. Inspection cover makes most of us think of the flywheel cover that is used on an FE equipped 4 speed.Hope this helps.
R.R.