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The only two cars with any roll over protection are the Jean Vincent/ex-Ed Hugus sold Shelby AC Cobra csx2001 with it's special "T" shaped roll bar and the 1963.5 Holman and Moody Ford Galaxie driven by Fabian at the back of the grid...crazy days.

#66-Shelby AC Cobra-csx2001 with Jean Vincent at the wheel taking 1st in class
#62-AC Cobra-cox6010-Jean de Mortemart at the wheel taking 5th. 

#66 sported the custom hard top the prior weekend for the Tour de France...with Jean Vincent and Gerard Fagot...out of the racing early with differential problems.  The hardtop is removal for a back to roadster look and or the center section is removable for the "Targa" look.

csx2001 only ran the Le Mans April trials in 1964 not the 24 hours of Le Mans.

Title of topic should be "French" race, not "British" race....Autodrome de Linas-Montlhery race track

Merry Christmas from the Neil family....a multi tasking Cobra on the drag strip and the road courses....a little buffing out and it will look just like new....just like playing fetch with your dog, but never stopping in time!

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/188527228977?_skw=grayling+car+races+1964&itmmeta=01KWQP6FMBM1PVWWTXAKJ3ND3A&hash=item2be5193831:g:K74AAeSwinVqKi5C&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA0GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xBZ6GM3t8afAW%2BnbXKFTa9jR0df9sx%2BogpYc1CkILZyaaQHKYZyxu3ZGiou99RCVTGeqkmD068rUGK2sqjdCEaxJ%2B1Q89Q87ReZDs6DSOvH7jzpgOKufzFlDLCkG52OxsJYFuJoqo7LowlwMISAXQLETHkKl9DRM7grabw1zLeHj9BRkGlUmr16WGykQUJ4uQ%2BW9rwu4Jj06qzw8DksAQvFNQCwB%2BTLvEAQGEfQzda3dAiAXA5OldEu%2BSCosUs47%2Bs%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR676mfblZw

Yes, yes, I know I'm out of season on this one but anyways Happy July 4th!!

Kranky

The 1965 Shelby De Tomaso P70 designed by Peter Brock was scheduled to also be powered by the 325 engine with a future engine size increase to a 7-liter engine as of early August 1965.

Daytona Beach Morning Journal....Photo caption-Disgusted Gurney--Dan Gurney pokes around under the hood of his Lotus Ford after retiring from the race with a burned piston.  He led all but 10 of the first 213 laps.

So there was some durability to the engine after 700 "+" miles of racing, not including practice mileage.

The Gurney Lotus 19 at Daytona 1965 ran that particular engine...ran as the "rabbit" to burn out the competition.  Dan Gerber is also noted to have run that engine in his Peregrine Special (ex-Bob Johnson car).

The white Cobra with black tapered stripes is csx2385, Mack Yates.  The black Cobra on the front row is the John Barker Cobra csx2071?  2071 is up for debate but the color, owner's residence in Denver, Colorado, etc., etc., kind of fit the unknown owner for this Cobra in the Registry and its hinted at prior race history local to Colorado.  The venue is CDR, otherwise known as Continental Divide Raceway.  The date is July 1964.

Nice selection of cars on the greens....the second photo of the "red" car is of an Alfa Romeo Junior Zagato.

June 1963 to mid-September 1963-Bob Brown/White-Griffith Motors

Late September 1963 to late April 1964-Mark Donohue/Hicksville Ford

May 1964 to late August, early September 1964-Ed Butler

Late 1964 dealer lot for sale.

Late Summer 1964-August 1966 (accident)-Jack Paveling

Summer 1966-new owner.

Don Roberts Cobra:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/127146964370?_skw=1967+race&itmmeta=01KKF3N5J6YHKKTP3TW24M1T08&hash=item1d9a8cb592:g:vFQAAOSw6R5oKKuV

Mack Yates and John Barker Cobras on front row:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145694599532?_skw=continental+divide+car++race&itmmeta=01KKEV7VCVJYG13STKDC48A0B6&hash=item21ec13296c:g:WqUAAOSwHOdmB0yX&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAABAGfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xBxjd6aJs21qgagE4tDD3MwYFghyQRo8ffH5b%2Fk8IRETpdlw7dCumylB%2BcMl7OfOSlHE8KuougHwjzadYFiZ42GXQeHu7gjUqdTmgQ1SBoszQ4JV73LJLJbEjhTt%2BQvn%2BtVmzBlWqqCtUwrQPnZgK7yPAqhfiDxqTJW%2FdpdlLY%2BWAHRe83vec54gRL1IJ3riDdHoV0GMBGJ5IyyonawoII9%2BtAsNvcX28szy%2BZV5W3IyBZI7%2BguhqZ0YNTdQNWUmVnlAbpW4qGeWRktNE2RxRjbN8uMN2Zw66EK5aIV6aefhf%2B3E%2BENLhnvdFqvo%2BAbv6I%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8q2n9ubZw

Ray Post small block Cobra:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126709051375?_skw=castle+rock+car++race&itmmeta=01KKEW4Z03905FC8DRB1Y2EK0Q&hash=item1d8072afef:g:~AAAAOSwI6xm9JC6&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA8GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xDy1ORuFxwpE4RU6v7%2BRz%2FIAl0zEZUmm2FUOGIKBoVhpnCL%2B7xnzC1ITJmyRXBETsYBjhEXew8kxh3vTX2ZPDTpJxLJWq%2FGSR2DUf%2FxOwE6RxxEuJ9zHBVC6QQ0Jbqc5k8HcTS1yS8g%2BD2cIeEHy9AfVXTywo4wvdzUueoDxqUXamzZMfkAEl6MWmbsbYLhC23rpSNIeqOGwgpvG9XnLezUY4BG2thyU4IzEcZvQyGX4G2LA3nX%2FwUfSu5%2BGYU7VaJm0GHDaO7l%2BhucH9dqLM9gU3SWWU%2FxWB7baPp1%2BskEiA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR57wk9ybZw

Ebay 35mm slides of James Pack Cobra:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116348781728?_skw=continental+divide+car++race&itmmeta=01KKEV7VCY0EZVDNTXQMW0HHG7&hash=item1b16ed84a0:g:Tv8AAOSwPMNm8zxq&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA4GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xCNfVlVuB3heyINtN7fo7ezz7HAJZmQ6%2FMvA9F0A0A%2BqO7stXuVCdaumeF1oqf1KtaJaEEqNR79YGOOfpGuTz35VnTo0OUgE0Q63llQGev2kz2jcPMowtX3QgSZT7TkBnE8V4KF2N1%2BHsrw%2FmUPnMx8G2Zgo49L0b%2BOj%2BFD%2FZAwqA6M0Zl%2BQQFff2%2BLzzSCmaSGQQj8lgvTUEg7l1CGkHSRaPbARU9YxKdAA8WkWMG0Gfa2%2FkNAFuSmhXOD2FthMbBE4HDiMrCjDE%2Fi8gFAzlQV%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR862n9ubZw

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The location is Cumberland.

Have you sent out any inquiries to Holman Moody and also to Alan Mann?  Both company's siblings are still around and have access to original documents.  The Henry Ford Museum has a slightly disorganized library with factory documents on file for research also in regards to Fords part in the development or mule cars also and the Arning mods.   

There also seems to be a connection to the 1963.5 Rally Falcons in there for development which would also include DST (Dearborn Steel Tubing).

I don't seem to remember Chuck mentioning anything about the TDF mustang being around in early development of the GT350.  Is there an approximate period when Shelby American did have their hands on an example of a TDF Mustang?  I know that the winning TDF Mustang was sent back to the USA for a PR tour and a few magazine tests (one with the Comstock Racing Mustang) then back to Holman Moody for Nassau Bahamas 1964 and Daytona 1965 then back to Europe and eventually succumbed to a racing accident.