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These comments are getting stupid.

Some more then others. I try to keep mine at least on a 51/49 basis. Sometimes that works.

Who really knows what makes people "believe"? Faith can be unreasonable and totally illogical.

This reminds me of "Peter Pan" and if we all clap together we can save Tinker Bell? Yikes.

As far as what is possible, "Commander Spok was always fond of saying...there are always possibilities". 

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  Occams Razor applies here, it takes mental gymnastics to come up with alternate explanations...
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Occams Razor is a "principle that states the simplest explanation with the fewest assumptions should be preferred between competing hypotheses".

The simplest answer is that after 54 years, if the car has not emerged (in some recognizable form), it likely no longer exists.


In 1970, a used USEABLE '67 GT500 probably had a resale value of around $2,500. How much repair costs would it have had if it was "undriveable" after it hit a telephone pole?

PROBABLY much more then the 50% or better of it's value is a good assumption. That is an "insurance total".


Additionally, as the public revelation of the ownership of the car showed, Morrison didn't own it, he only drove it on occasion.

Would that have created a high desire for the car then?



The reference in classified ads published by Wolff may or may not indicate his actual possession of the car. There are now and there were then, too many "wheeler dealers". Not to disparage Wolff's reputation, but what exactly was his reputation? Was it a "reliable as bedrock" one? Was it what would be the reliability of the "typical" 'used car salesman'?




Insurance company procedure then would have "totaled" the car and paid a settlement to the "management company" that owned the title. It then would have gone through the standard auctioning procedure. As a Mustang previously owned by "some unknown Corporation".
Hardly anything to draw attention to it.



Occam's Razor "theory", then and now, would tend to indicate, if it still exists, show me. Everything else is just "Conspiracy Theory".

Well here is story three.

He was wasted. He crashed the car. Abandoned it on the street and reported it stolen.

That was the "first" one that I heard of somewhere around 40 years ago.

That was the last time that he crashed it. There were more times.

...something about driving it flat out up a dead end street until he ran out of street...

 

The car was purchased new from Wolff?

Who is Ray Wolff?

From my strange Brain..................... If Someone has the actual VIN Number, enough money and time, they could easily do some thing like a "Re-Body" Restoration of JM's Shelby.  You can find most, if not all of the needed used parts to turn a very good used 1967 Mustang Body (the right Body) into a 1967 Shelby GT 500.  Cut out the VIN's and weld the space sup and restamp with the new VIN.  once totally completed, age it and place it in a drafty dusty old Barn out in the middle of no where long enough to get it coated with a lot of Dust, wait for the right people at SAAC to die off and then "FIND IT".

...and then wait for the "right sucker"?

I believe Brett at Cape Cod Mustang has an original Registration Card of Jim"s for the car.

If the car is ever found, it'll see for big bucks......... huge, huge money.

QSS

Yes.

It is believed that the car was "totaled", within the definition of that insurance term and if so, the insurance company would have paid off the claim and would own the title.

There have been no "witnesses" to have come forward to confirm anything.


Considering that at that time records would have been kept on paper, the likeliness those documents still exist is very unlikely. Even Ford cleans out their own paper records after a set period of time, which really is why SAAC has been able to obtain so many, on their way to the trash bin.

Only time will tell if the bones to this car still exist but if the initial story is accurate, then the cars remains likely were just parted out in a salvage yard since then it would have been just another, less then $100 LA salvage wreck.


Considering how many have been looking and how many in LA have "connections" within the circles a survivor would have traveled in that area, it most likely just slipped through everyone's fingers, insignificantly piece by piece.

So even if someone was able to recover the paper title from the original insurer, without the main part of the chassis to build on, it would just become what SAAC calls an "air car".


Considering the recent discussions of "Bullet", it is a completely new car built on the original serial number. Is that the "real original car"? Personally, I think not but honestly there is no telling what the power of fantasy is in dollars.

I suppose it all depends on how good of a salesman one is?

A buyer is just purchasing a paper "bill of goods".

Considering that it is likely that a repaired car looses value from an original, can you sue for the lost value?

It has always been controversial to say the least about what is the "original" car.

If this one was the "stunt car" that essentially got wrecked, should it have been left alone as much as it could be?

I'm thinking of all of the "other cars". The Boss', the Shelby's, the Cobras, etc, that have been"restored to original". As if that ever could be 100% accurate.

It is only original once. Everything after that is essentially a "caricature" of the original.

As pointed out, it likely will find a buyer for the way it is now and it will be appreciated as such.

I'd speculate that the new owner is not in this discussion group. I can confirm that it is absolutely not me.

Those boss 429 shocks he is selling are not correct. Boss 429 shocks are a different length and are kkx or c9zx id.

I don't see those in his listings?

Mine did not use a grommet.

To clarify, The C6AE marked pump is what is expected for example if in a concours venue. The date should before the engine was built . 

Yes. If you are going to look for another pump, find one with the C6 engineering number.

There are lots of quality rebuilds around that have the "correct" (or as expected) engineering number and casting dates close to what yours would have originally had.

There will be others interested in what you have.

This is by no means a disaster.

If I recall correctly the block and heads are feb 67 and the car was completely in April 28th 67

The pump date should be close to the block and heads. It can't be original if it's date code is after the engine assembly date which is something like 2 to 4  weeks later of the block/heads casting dates. There is a date code STAMPED into the block which is the engine assembly date.

Regardless of the C8 engineering number, it can't be original to the original build although it stems from recently after the original assembly date.

That doesn't mean that it is inappropriate for an early service part but that isn't what you asked.

It's more common to have the C6AE engineering number and that is what most would expect to find and although it may be possible to find a C8 pump with the right early casting date, that would be uncommon, but you are asking for opinions and for sure there will be conflicting opinions on this subject of 68 engineering numbers with early 67 casting dates that could have found there way into '67 assemblies.

What is the build date of the car and/or what are the casting dates on the block and the heads?