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Tom,

Thanks for your response. That's crazy that you have already 'been there, done that.' Incredible!

Can you post a larger/more readable version of your attachment here, or could I PM you for a 150 dpi scan?

Thanks,
Kieth

Not as fast as this 5th wheel, I would surmise:

I've always made this personal observation of history in general:

You may not like it. You may not agree with it. But it happened.

[and]

When I had my chance to buy the SuperSnake it was the whitewalls that blew the deal. Yuk!

shelbydoug,

I don't know you, so I don't know if you're being facetious or not, and I hear you about whitewalls.

But IMHPO, when a feature that I actually don't like at all (WW tires), happens to be historically correct (and exceedingly rare), it rockets right up to the top of the COOL scale for me!

Different, rare, AND historically accurate? NICE!

When I win the Lottery and the Super Snake becomes mine, it shall retain it's made-of-unobtainium, only-NOS-set-on-the-planet, Goodyear Thunderbolt whitewall tires!

But that's just me . . . .

[DUH!]

 

Kieth you've talked about maybe getting a'67 that was your chance! 

You could have parked your '66 there taken the '67 and the driver wouldn't notice the swap - hey it was a White Shelby with stripes ;-)

Forehead slap! DUH! I was so stunned at being alone with the Super Snake I couldn't even gather myself! I just stuck my head inside the window to look at the keys in the ignition.

I am not kidding - there was NO one around in this huge warehouse at that time. And there's a Plum Crazy Hemi Cuda sitting there in the cold behind the Snake.

It looked like they might just sit there all night...

When were the 70 Shelby VIN numbers changed? Was it prior to dealership delivery, or were the cars delivered as 69's to the dealership and later returned for a vin change? I'm just courios about the details.

I have read that every 1969 to 1970 Shelby VIN tag change had to witnessed by an FBI agent during the process.

Is that a known fact or an urban myth?

[LOUDLY]

During the teardown of the MCACN show, the one-of-one Shelby Super Snake rumbled (LOUDLY) by with its Le Mans spec GT40 MKII 427 race engine.

I tried to follow it into a cold adjoining warehouse but couldn't keep up. When I did find it, it had been left alone, parked behind a Reliable Carriers semi, with the windows down, key in the ignition, and no one around.

There it would sit until the truck driver jumped into it to load 'er up.

Just sayin' . . . . .

Thanks Guys.

That's automotive artist David Snyder. He wants my engine to be #2 in a series of four FORD engines that he is going to paint in late 2019.

He said that the 427 will be first, then the 289 Hi-Po, then the Boss 302 and the Boss 429.

What an honor. Thank you David!

Kieth

[TWICE!!]

The AD KING has granted your wish!

Dear Mr. AD KING - Thank You for granting my wish - TWICE!!

[I]

Kieth, you're right, sensory overload is not hitting the mark on how great the show was.
Being parked next to a car as nice as yours was an honor ( sorry about the two big dirt piles I left on the floor after cleaning the mud out of my tires)
I took a lot of detailed pictures of your car as I want to replicate some of the "originality" on my car
I'm really glad you showed your car, it was beautiful and the accolades it received were great and well received.
Maybe we can talk Bob Ashton into having a new "Snake Pit" and we all can meet back every year at MCACN.
Now it's on to making plans for SAAC 44, hope to see you there sharing your car and it's stories with more folks

Steve,

It was a real pleasure to meet you and your wife - you are both wonderful people, and your Mustang Monthly cover car just blew me away! I thought I was a Long Term Owner, but you left me in the dust in that regard.

Your easy going friendliness and comic skills kept me afloat during the early stressful part of this great unknown-to-me event - Thank you for that.

Congrats to you and your history with that famous Hertz car.

Kieth

[that!!]

I vote Coralsnake for the best thread of the year.

I second that!!

Pete - you are my only hope for finding one of Cutter Ford Sales in North Hollywood, Calif

Thanks,
Kieth

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I just got back from MCACN yesterday, and I used a phrase all weekend to describe the experience: "Sensory overload"

But the hilite of my weekend for sure was the opportunity to invite the former owner of my car to this event to be able to meet him for the first time in over 42 years, and for him to see his car for the first time since 1976!!

This is Bob Taylor, who bought 6S1615 in 1976 at age 16 (with a signature from his father) and who then sold it that same year. I acquired it on June 30, 1976. He said that he has regretted it everyday since the day he sold it. I asked him why he did sell it. He said, "You know, I was just 16 years old at the time and I was impulsive and I just figured I would get another one someday." That day never came, and this turned out to be the only Shelby Bob ever owned. He has a brother who is two years older, and he owned a 1968 GT500 KR. His brother also parted with his car around that same time, and about a month later it was destroyed in an accident. So then both Shelbys were gone from the Taylor family.

Bob and his wife Helen are two of the nicest people I have ever met, and it was an honor and a privilege to meet them and to have a nice long visit with them. We bonded instantly, as people in situations like this usually do. I am so thankful that they were able to attend the show and for Bob to be reunited with his car. It was a humbling experience for sure, and the thrill of a lifetime for me.

Thank you Bob & Helen!

Kieth 

[Astri Company]

As with many (most!) things Shelby American, there is no specific cutoff point of chassis numbers for changes made during production. The 10-spokes are (to my knowledge) no different in that regard. Others here may know the approximate car number of the change.

Of interest, the Registry says: "The Astri Company has been asked to quote on cast alloy road wheels and will send a set of 6" x 15" wheels for evaluation." I don't know if that was who made the 10-spokes or not.

Also mentioned in the Registry are meeting notes on Dec 28, 1965 that say, "Delivery of Shelby aluminum wheels continue to be a problem. Fifty units are due on this date."

And on March 30, 1966, "We are out of Shelby aluminum wheels, but Galloway reports 250 are in progress and ready for delivery sometime today."

I know this doesn't answer your question about the cutoff point between the two versions, but they're interesting footnotes about them nonetheless.

I also thought I read somewhere that Phil Remington designed them - is that known to be correct?

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The spokes of  the "early-wide" version do not go to the edge of the rim.

The "narrow-late-common" version (as shown below) has spokes that do:

I forgot to add that I have 4 professional tire shipping boxes, which have cushioned cardboard liners for protection of the wheel/tire faces, along with soft packing material for the backside of the tires.

Very nice for transport & shipping.