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SHIVER ME TIMBERS!!!

https://youtu.be/Rwi0pPr9hq8

At least shortly after the beginning, future R model Mustangs, were preordered, not just pulled from the line. At best it appeared to be then sporadic.

Bob, Steve and all:
This is a great and substantive thread. New original material and thoughtful inputs therein. Shades of our original forum!
I think I speak for many here on how much we all benefit from your sharing of your considerable expertise.
Would hate to see this veer off track. Been alot of 'psychobabble' on here lately.
Love talking shop and anything to do with that fabulous SAI history, especially at West Imperial Highway.

My unsolicited two-cents (from my backround): eyewitnesses often time turn out to less than reliable in a thorough investigation-makes it difficult sometimes.

Steve A

What a classy series of contributions!
Respectfully, Steve A

Neat thread. Basically agree w most said (been running a C7FE for over 40 years).
A few nuanced points worth considering (some basic):

-the distinctive sound is a function of the lobe separation, that CompCam is at 110, the C7FE is at 107- big difference in engine sound;
-the C7FE, as all cams, will be a *smaller* effective  camshaft in a 331, even moreso in a 347 or 363. maybe good maybe bad, but the engine will have a different personality than a 289 w a C7FE;
-the C7FE is simply a 'shelf' Don Sullivan lobe profile (888? can't remember offhand) used on both the 289 and FE. Had an XE part number in 1966 prior to 67. It was 'tuned' for the GT-40 by the lobe separation and the listed lash (.025/.020). This lash tuning on the same lobe profile is what accounts for the listed nominal duration difference (318-304) with the same .050 duration of 252;
-this camshaft was WIDELY reproduced for many years by mass producers/merchandisers: TRW, Melling, Sealed Power, Honest Charley, JC Whitney, Gratiot, now Herbert.  most of the 'merchandised' cams are listed w 320~ nominal duration, same lash, and same .050 duration, taking some of Sullivan's tuning out and perhaps making it 'idiot proof" . (would love to put one on a Cam Doctor);
-true it is a 1966 (or earlier) lobe profile, although quite aggressive for its time. utilizing 1.7 rocker arms, makes it a much quicker ramp -at the valve- and increases the duration under the curve slightly. not a 1:1 correlation to todays ramp intensity, but close...and FUN in an increased displacement SB stroker. it is NOT a Duntov 30/30 'flat ramp';
-lastly, it is just sooooo Ford. for many many years, prior to todays wide aftermarket, a 271HP 289-punched 30, valves, ported heads, torker (or whatever) was THE bread and butter SB Ford run at slaloms, autocrosses, club events and street racing. timeless, quick, with a unique vicious sound.

Typical hick who tested well (like CS), gotta love em:


"At the beginning of World War II, Worthington enlisted in the Army Air Corps. Commissioned a Second Lieutenant, he was the aerobatics champion at Goodfellow Field in San Angelo, Texas. He saw combat as a B-17 Flying Fortress pilot with the 390th Bomb Group, flying 29 missions over Germany. He was discharged after the war as a captain. Worthington was awarded the Air Medal five times, and received the Distinguished Flying Cross, which was presented to him by General Jimmy Doolittle.

Worthington's military service was frequently revisited in the 21st century in aviation magazines, since he had trained pilots who would become some of America's first astronauts."

It is not a 1965 GT-350 intake (S1MS-9424A). There were non PCV intakes used on Cobras I've heard and purportedly on R Mustangs (?).
The biggest issue with this intake, beside the obvious lack of markings, is the lack of a rear casting boss.

On the casting boss (cylindrical, between front and carb heat plenum): are there any stamped letters?
Of note: it appears there is no PCV accommodation  and the carb heat shield was never 'tapped' (?)

http://www.ponysite.de/racing_smits.htm

I wonder how many (if any) they've sold other than the demos.
Even in today's market I know of 65 GT-350s which  could be bought and brought to this spec for this money-or very closely thereabouts.

These OVC cars are very nice, very well done, gussied up Mustangs with illusory provenance. Why not own a real SFM5S with a clean SAI title that perhaps was never destined to be an auction queen?

Somewhat surprised if indeed a no sale in Europe. This car could be picked-on in a concours analysis but it was reasonably priced IMO.
I would think this car would be an outstanding platform to get an HTP and participate in some of the 'Peter Auto' events.
Spa and LMC coming up.

Strange they're highlighting those keys.

Chino, wow thats brings up some memories. Flew in their airshow both 1984 and 1985 as a active duty pilot out of El Toro. Ed Maloney, Frank Mormillo great guys, Frank Sanders, a spectacular airshow pilot, loved the 65 GT350 and always let me park in his hanger. all dead now...long time ago..........

Nice car.
Battery relocated within the trunk?

I have encountered the *opposite*. Two years ago at the Pismo Beach Saturday morning cruise there was a basic white 271hp 4sp 2+2, rough, complete and unrestored with a VIN of 5R09K217XXX. The owner was unaware and I did not play it up. That is right in the middle of the May 65 SFMs.

(thank you J_Speegle)