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Title: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: JWH on February 25, 2020, 06:30:30 AM
Please let me know if you have a source for the spring clips that retain the chrome molding strips to the nose of a '68 Shelby.

What is the proper way to secure the spring clips to the fiberglass from behind? Did they use speed nuts or push- on retainers or??
Thanks in advance
Jeff
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: Coralsnake on February 25, 2020, 06:59:12 AM
In s few cases the studs were threaded and there was a nut on the back. A barrel nut insert is by far the most common. AMK products sells them. You should have their catalog if you are working on any Ford product as it lists part numbers and pictures
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: 68blk500c on February 25, 2020, 10:06:43 AM
Branda has the stud clip that slides into the rear of the trim pieces.  They include a donut cushion which is not used by the factory, originally. 
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: DC-DD on February 27, 2020, 06:29:21 PM

Here is picture of Original clip box.
Will post clip
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: shelbydoug on September 23, 2024, 08:46:42 PM
This is an old posting but I have the threades studs that use hex nuts on the nose moldings.

What are those called? I can't find a listing on them anywhere?
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: shelbydoug on September 23, 2024, 09:22:18 PM
This is what it looks like. What is it called?
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: azdriver on September 23, 2024, 09:40:19 PM
I have several boxes of these but they seem to be different....

Pat
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: shelbydoug on September 23, 2024, 10:09:55 PM
There is more then one type apparently? I just don't know what mine are called to do a search?

Mine don't come up at the usual places. These were on the car when I got it in '72.
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: shelbymann1970 on September 24, 2024, 09:08:44 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on February 25, 2020, 06:59:12 AMIn s few cases the studs were threaded and there was a nut on the back. A barrel nut insert is by far the most common. AMK products sells them. You should have their catalog if you are working on any Ford product as it lists part numbers and pictures
I go online and have printed up every AMK fastener for my 68 and when my originals go out for plating the pics will go into the bags for quick reference when the fasteners(hundreds) come back. Here is one example. https://www.amkproducts.com/bulk-fasteners-products/?Product_ID=12589
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: shelbymann1970 on September 24, 2024, 09:26:18 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on February 25, 2020, 06:59:12 AMIn s few cases the studs were threaded and there was a nut on the back. A barrel nut insert is by far the most common. AMK products sells them. You should have their catalog if you are working on any Ford product as it lists part numbers and pictures
I do not see the clips on AMK's website. Here is a set from an internet search. Are these correct? https://www.rpidesigns.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=24788&srsltid=AfmBOopXUo0pSwY-g26hn3eAJWEa936vv_O240Lls9lc72DdVyNNYZ766II
Appears to be the same that Branda sells.
https://store.cobranda.com/grmoatclset.html
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: shelbydoug on September 24, 2024, 10:14:44 AM
Granted, this is really getting down into the weeds but I just need a few new ones of the picture that I posted.

I can't find the "term" that they identified by to in fact do a search. So far, nothing.

They do have the advantage of making it easier to remove those nose moldings without marking them up by needing to pry them off, so I want to stay with that. I hate those barrel clips. They have caused lots of issues over the 52 years that I have had this car.

I don't like the engineering solution they represent.
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: 68blk500c on September 24, 2024, 10:25:01 AM
The S8MS-8A310-A ones that Pat shows in his photo are correct.  ADDITIONALLY, some S8Ms-8A311-A are used also, which are longer.  Refer to assembly manual.  The "11" longer version go in hard to locate areas, so fewer are used.
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: shelbymann1970 on September 24, 2024, 10:32:33 AM
If you were to use the NOS ones that pat posted a pic of do they generally come with the sleeve nuts that mount in the fiberglass?
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: 68blk500c on September 24, 2024, 12:25:11 PM
No, NOS do not.

Some repros have a donut cushion, which is not factory original, or service replacement.  I understand the use of the donut, but it is visible and not correct.

The post that commented on prying----please go to the rear and push the pin/stud out, rather than prying.
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: shelbydoug on September 24, 2024, 12:35:12 PM
Quote from: 68blk500c on September 24, 2024, 12:25:11 PMNo, NOS do not.

Some repros have a donut cushion, which is not factory original, or service replacement.  I understand the use of the donut, but it is visible and not correct.

The post that commented on prying----please go to the rear and push the pin/stud out, rather than prying.

The fuseable link here are the fasteners. It is still possible to dent the moldings by "pushing them out". Not to mention, dislodging the barrel clips/clip in the process and chipping the paint.

It's a simple question. What is the technical term for the stud.

As far as what was original to this car? These threaded fasteners were.


As far as what was an original production part and service part, they were never always the same as far as Ford is concerned.
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: 68blk500c on September 24, 2024, 12:40:14 PM
Doug:  In my experience, I haven't seen your style of threaded fastener used on 68 grill surrounds.  Maybe others have.
Title: Re: Spring Clips that retain front molding pieces - where to buy?
Post by: 68blk500c on September 24, 2024, 01:04:22 PM
For further reference, a picture of both NOS clips: "10" & "11".
Also, a note on the quantity of each for each surround trim piece, according to information available in the Ford MPC, as well as assembly manuals.