Just in case you haven't seen an original record that came in the AMT model of the 1967 Shelby Mustang.
My original from the model I build in 1967.
Very cool!
Pretty sure the model was actually a 1968 GT 500 with the 67 picture on the record. I still have my record also.
Don
gt350bp
Quote from: gt350bp on February 06, 2020, 09:07:03 PM
Pretty sure the model was actually a 1968 GT 500 with the 67 picture on the record. I still have my record also.
Don
gt350bp. Yep.
Don is right, here are some pics of the box. I actually have 3 records if anyone is looking for one.
Quote from: gt350bp on February 06, 2020, 09:07:03 PM
Pretty sure the model was actually a 1968 GT 500 with the 67 picture on the record. I still have my record also.
Don
gt350bp
The 67 Shelby picture on the record is relevant because If you listen to the record you will hear that CS is putting the 67 GT500 Supersnake through the gears at speed. Pretty cool audio. 8)
The picture on the record is a generic 67 Shelby picture as the Super Snake on the recording looks different from that angle.
Have I ever mentioned on here how much I dig vintage auto illustrations? ;D
- Phillip
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/134-070220074653.jpeg)
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 06, 2020, 11:21:34 PM
The picture on the record is a generic 67 Shelby picture as the Super Snake on the recording looks different from that angle.
It's a little ironic that virtually all of the official, Ford generated advertising illustrations of the '67 Shelby have the Le Mans stripes when the actual cars did not - and then the illustration (in theory) of the one Shelby, the Super Snake, that could claim to have come with stripes, does not have them.
- Phillip
Quote from: propayne on February 07, 2020, 07:56:26 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 06, 2020, 11:21:34 PM
The picture on the record is a generic 67 Shelby picture as the Super Snake on the recording looks different from that angle.
It's a little ironic that virtually all of the official, Ford generated advertising illustrations of the '67 Shelby have the Le Mans stripes when the actual cars did not - and then the illustration (in theory) of the one Shelby, the Super Snake, that could claim to have come with stripes, does not have them.
- Phillip
The 67 GT500 Supersnake is a outboard light car with a partially chromed grill and then distinctive LeMans stripes that are different in design compared to 65/66 style..
Yes, that was the purpose of my caveat "in theory".
I think this particular illustration used on the AMT record is a very nice, professional illustration. I've always liked it - lots of energy.
And I wonder if it was commissioned exclusively for this record? Has anybody seen it used by Ford for anything else?
So to continue along those lines, and further into the dark recesses of the way that my mind works - was this an assignment given to an illustrator for this project? Namely illustrating the packaging of a recording of a specific and visually unique car?
If so, then obviously the art direction given was "do us a drawing of a Shelby Mustang" and not "do us a drawing of THIS Shelby Mustang".
Don't mean to expose everyone to my ramblings - but the marketing/advertising of these cars is of particular interest to me and probably not so much for everyone else :o
- Phillip
I bought that kit around 1969. To my surprise the recording is of Shelby driving an earlier Shelby GT350, I think it says at one point that it is a 1965 GT350. Great recording. Not a bad kit either by AMT standards.
Quote from: Royce Peterson on February 07, 2020, 11:18:58 AM
I bought that kit around 1969. To my surprise the recording is of Shelby driving an earlier Shelby GT350, I think it says at one point that it is a 1965 GT350. Great recording. Not a bad kit either by AMT standards.
Listen to it again Royce . Not the worst thing to have to do . ;) All of the records that have the 67 Shelby on them that I have ever listen to documents CS driving a equipped 427 Shelby (supersnake on tire test day no doubt) .
Check out this video regarding the model and the record. Pretty good production. It's funny how often he says he's doing 7000RPM. The engine sound doesn't seem to match that claim.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=AMT+Shelby+record&qs=n&sp=-1&pq=amt+shelby+record&sc=0-17&sk=&cvid=5747AD9F1CE144BBAF561AE416F7295F&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dAMT%2520Shelby%2520record%26qs%3dn%26form%3dQBRE%26sp%3d-1%26pq%3damt%2520shelby%2520record%26sc%3d0-17%26sk%3d%26cvid%3d5747AD9F1CE144BBAF561AE416F7295F&view=detail&mmscn=vwrc&mid=FD38BA85C6162D8CD21FFD38BA85C6162D8CD21F&FORM=WRVORC
That is very cool - especially for those that have not had a chance to hear it.
Thanks for posting the link.
- Phillip
The video was removed
Hmmm, tried the link mlplunkett posted and it still works for me.
- Phillip
OK, which one of you blocked me?
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 07, 2020, 05:31:01 PM
OK, which one of you blocked me?
Try this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l5uMndGKl4
He does say GT500 on the recording but how many here have GT500's that go to 7000 RPM? I still think the recording is of a race prepared GT350 or perhaps SCCA sedan.
mlplunkett, thanks for posting, the link works for me, I have not listened to that record since I bought the kit back in the day, still
have it, but I don't have that card that they show along with the record. A couple of the pictures they show along with the video
are not at Riverside, the R model (prototype ?) shot is at Willow Springs, you can see the sign on the left.
Great stuff brings back a lot of memories ;)
Mike
Does anyone know what gearing was in the Super Snake when Carroll drove it that day? He really could drive, I wonder how his career would have gone if he didn't have to retire due to health concerns?
Quote from: Royce Peterson on February 08, 2020, 10:01:38 AM
He does say GT500 on the recording but how many here have GT500's that go to 7000 RPM? I still think the recording is of a race prepared GT350 or perhaps SCCA sedan.
Royce, again It is the GT 500 supersnake CS was in when making the recording. Apparently since I already mentioned it was the GT500 supersnake you are not aware the engine in that car was/is a 427 lightweight engine (solid lifter of course)like used in the GT40's at LeMans. It is one of only 3 factory blessed cars with a 427. All three are lightweight engines according to factory documentation. That engine could and did see 7,000 rpm. Whether or not CS was exaggerating for effect is debatable . The point is the engine was built to do it. A stock GT 500 with a hydraulic cam would be pushing it on anything over 5,500 RPM.
Sorry Bob I missed that in your previous comments.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 08, 2020, 12:19:43 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on February 08, 2020, 10:01:38 AM
He does say GT500 on the recording but how many here have GT500's that go to 7000 RPM? I still think the recording is of a race prepared GT350 or perhaps SCCA sedan.
Royce, again It is the GT 500 supersnake CS was in when making the recording. Apparently since I already mentioned it was the GT500 supersnake you are not aware the engine in that car was/is a 427 lightweight engine (solid lifter of course)like used in the GT40's at LeMans. It is one of only 3 factory blessed cars with a 427. All three are lightweight engines according to factory documentation. That engine could and did see 7,000 rpm. Whether or not CS was exaggerating for effect is debatable . The point is the engine was built to do it. A stock GT 500 with a hydraulic cam would be pushing it on anything over 5,500 RPM.
I remember hearing that the GT350 designers wanted the hood scoop to open at the rear to be in the high pressure area at the base of the windshield but I didn't realize that they actually mounted it that way on the prototype. Great photo.
Quote from: mlplunkett on February 10, 2020, 11:51:32 AM
I remember hearing that the GT350 designers wanted the hood scoop to open at the rear to be in the high pressure area at the base of the windshield but I didn't realize that they actually mounted it that way on the prototype. Great photo.
Sure. Where do you think GM
stole got the idea for the Pontiac Firebird with the decal of the chicken on the hood from? Did you think that was original?