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Title: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: BGlover67 on January 26, 2020, 10:24:37 PM
Before the crash, someone posted a great set of pics showing a repop chromed air cleaner lid vs an assembly line correct version.  Does anyone still have that pic?  I read on another forum that original lids weigh more than repops.  (14oz vs 24oz) . Anyone know if that is a reliable way to confirm?

Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 26, 2020, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on January 26, 2020, 10:24:37 PM
Before the crash, someone posted a great set of pics showing a repop chromed air cleaner lid vs an assembly line correct version.  Does anyone still have that pic?  I read on another forum that original lids weigh more than repops.  (14oz vs 24oz) . Anyone know if that is a reliable way to confirm?
Yes the originals are heavier however the visual contour aspect of the lid is the more important detail. Basically squared off transition edges apposed to the more gradual contours of the repros. Some of the new repros can be hard to tell from original .
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: roddster on January 27, 2020, 10:07:31 AM
Dimples where the wing nut can catch too.
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: BGlover67 on January 27, 2020, 10:38:23 AM
Rodney,

I have four lids, three are heavy, weighing in at 24 to 28 Oz each, while one weighs only 14 oz.  All four have dimples, so I don't think we can use that as a criteria anymore. 
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: DennyD on January 27, 2020, 12:15:26 PM
Hi Brian, Check out this photo, I hope it helps. The lid on the left is a repop, the one on the right is assembly line.
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: DennyD on January 27, 2020, 12:16:34 PM
Here's another side by side:
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 27, 2020, 04:27:43 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 26, 2020, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on January 26, 2020, 10:24:37 PM
Before the crash, someone posted a great set of pics showing a repop chromed air cleaner lid vs an assembly line correct version.  Does anyone still have that pic?  I read on another forum that original lids weigh more than repops.  (14oz vs 24oz) . Anyone know if that is a reliable way to confirm?
Yes the originals are heavier however the visual contour aspect of the lid is the more important detail. Basically squared off transition edges apposed to the more gradual contours of the repros. Some of the new repros can be hard to tell from original .
Here are some pictures illustrating the original contours of the genuine lid.Some of the good repros are very close in original contour to their credit.  These details should be the first things that are inspected because they are the most visible clue's . The other details do not matter if the lid does not have theses details. If the contours match original then that is the time to move on to the more subtle details like weight etc.
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: BGlover67 on January 27, 2020, 04:36:34 PM
Thanks guys.  That's a big help.   :)
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: kingchief on January 27, 2020, 04:39:16 PM
Here is another photo that Cory posted a while back.

Cheers,

Steve
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: BGlover67 on January 27, 2020, 05:41:55 PM
That's the one!!  I remember that from before the 'Big Crash'.  Very much appreciated!

Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: kingchief on January 27, 2020, 06:27:45 PM
No problem!  I tried to save ALL the photos I can.  I saved a lot post crash.

Cheers,

Steve
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: lawrence67 on January 27, 2020, 10:46:33 PM
So is the blue tape middle one the original lid?  Not mentioned in the description.  Sharper and crisper bends the clue?
PL
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: JD on December 20, 2020, 10:29:13 AM
OK, so which/who offers the Best Repro?

The online and catalog images are not clear enough to get a good read on accuracy.



Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: 1175 on December 20, 2020, 11:19:48 AM
I will add that there are at least 2 different versions of the outer lip area.  One turns down more than the other. The other more of a flare.

Jon
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: Harris Speedster on December 20, 2020, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: lawrence67 on January 27, 2020, 10:46:33 PM
So is the blue tape middle one the original lid?  Not mentioned in the description.  Sharper and crisper bends the clue?
PL

I would like to ask the same question, blue tape pic?

So 14 OZ is a repop, and give or take, 24-28 OZ is real, is that correct?
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: 6s1640 on December 21, 2020, 02:03:00 AM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on December 20, 2020, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: lawrence67 on January 27, 2020, 10:46:33 PM
So is the blue tape middle one the original lid?  Not mentioned in the description.  Sharper and crisper bends the clue?
PL

I would like to ask the same question, blue tape pic?

So 14 OZ is a repop, and give or take, 24-28 OZ is real, is that correct?

Hi guys,

Yes, the blue tape is an original HiPo chrome lid and my photograph.  I thought the black marker line would really help define the contours.

The upper image with the whitish tape is also mine to help show the differences.  (At least I am pretty sure its mine.)    Mr. Kingchief may have added the bottom image.

I added a 2.0 version, attached, to go with new 2.0 forum.  The contour at "2" is really  a crisp edge that defines an original well to me.  That is the first place I look to determine original or repop.

On the weight, I just weighed an original and repop and they both came in pretty close 26 oz.  So using weight is not a good identifier, unless of course you wiegh a lid and it is 14 oz, then it is a repop.  The other thing, the repop's do not survive as well as an original as far as rusting.  The repop's rust easier.  You can see in the below image.  IIRC, the repop below was not the cheap one.  So it is a little disappointing that is is rusting.

Glad to help.

Cory
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: Harris Speedster on December 21, 2020, 09:27:01 AM
Thank you Cory.
Merry Christmas too you and yours
John
Title: Re: '66-'67 small block Air Cleaner Lid
Post by: sg66 on December 29, 2020, 07:18:30 PM
Quote from: roddster on January 27, 2020, 10:07:31 AM
Dimples where the wing nut can catch too.
Some pics and measurements from underneath for future reference