Up for auction B+J Scottsdale. 427 Competition Package?
Lot#1447
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-237288
With an automatic. :o
Competition package???Lies,lies,lies (they're gonna getcha)
I thought the "Caution-Fan" sticker was part of the Competition Package.
Nah! Bona Fide Competition package removes the caution fan decal for weight savings.
Good point. And the windshield washer bottle (notice it's not a bag) was secretly filled with nitro.
Those Competition boys had all the bases covered.
But SAAC says the original owner was Hubert Platt. Interesting because Hubert DESPISED automatics saying they were for "old women".IIRC all thre verified '67s with 427s were 4 speeds. HMMM.
Maybe he bought it for his Mom and just tuned it up a little for her? Who was "the little old lady from Pasadena" anyway?
I think I have a picture of the engine in my computer (which I had registered in January 2015) but I do not know this vehicle ::)
Quote from: gt350hr on January 07, 2020, 12:38:04 PM
But SAAC says the original owner was Hubert Platt. Interesting because Hubert DESPISED automatics saying they were for "old women".IIRC all thre verified '67s with 427s were 4 speeds. HMMM.
He could have seen a Doctor and "changed"............ This IS the new age you know.
Quote from: joephil on January 07, 2020, 04:17:26 PM
I think I have a picture of the engine in my computer (which I had registered in January 2015) but I do not know this vehicle ::)
IF what the advertising is referring to is the "light weight 427", this is the engine that was used in the the GT40 MKII and MIIB.
It consisted of a 427 block, crank, rods and 10.5:1 pistons. It used either the FORD C6FE aluminum medium rise heads (MKII) or the aluminum 427 Tunnel port heads (MKIIB). A MAGNESIUM single 4v PI intake, a harmonic balancer with an aluminum hub and iron ring, and an aluminum water pump.
That's the "light weight 427 competition package". There is no matching 2x4 magnesium intake that I know of for that combination.
If they are referring to a different combintion then the advertiser is making up a story.
There were three invoiced 427 67 GT500's and this car is not one of them. As Randy mentioned, they were all 4 speeds.
So keep an eye out for Pinocchio. He will stand out in the crowd since his nose will continue to grow. ;)
Do they seriously think that they can jerk around a knowledgeable buyer, hose him down with bs and they will sign a check? Really?
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 07, 2020, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: joephil on January 07, 2020, 04:17:26 PM
I think I have a picture of the engine in my computer (which I had registered in January 2015) but I do not know this vehicle ::)
IF what the advertising is referring to is the "light weight 427", this is the engine that was used in the the GT40 MKII and MIIB.
It consisted of a 427 block, crank, rods and 10.5:1 pistons. It used either the FORD C6FE aluminum medium rise heads (MKII) or the aluminum 427 Tunnel port heads (MKIIB). A MAGNESIUM single 4v PI intake, a harmonic balancer with an aluminum hub and iron ring, and an aluminum water pump.
That's the "light weight 427 competition package". There is no matching 2x4 magnesium intake that I know of for that combination.
If they are referring to a different combintion then the advertiser is making up a story.
There were three invoiced 427 67 GT500's and this car is not one of them. As Randy mentioned, they were all 4 speeds.
So keep an eye out for Pinocchio. He will stand out in the crowd since his nose will continue to grow. ;)
Do they seriously think that they can jerk around a knowledgeable buyer, hose him down with bs and they will sign a check? Really?
All three 67 GT500's had the lightweight 427 engine installed.
It is a damn good looking day 2 GT500 to my eye.
Yup, those don't win awards or bring the highest bucks but what fun this would be from stoplight to stoplight.
Love the black. I am not near my registry, was black the born-with color?
Quote from: 2112 on January 07, 2020, 05:15:24 PM
It is a damn good looking day 2 GT500 to my eye.
Yup, those don't win awards or bring the highest bucks but what fun this would be from stoplight to stoplight.
Love the black. I am not near my registry, was black the born-with color?
It was Red
Quote from: JD on January 07, 2020, 06:24:41 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 07, 2020, 05:15:24 PM
It is a damn good looking day 2 GT500 to my eye.
Yup, those don't win awards or bring the highest bucks but what fun this would be from stoplight to stoplight.
Love the black. I am not near my registry, was black the born-with color?
It was Red
Thanks JD.
B-J is no reserve. Maybe the price will allow someone in who wants a good looking fun car to drive.
It's this one, sold at BJ in 2004. the first one I ever saw bring a bunch of money at BJ......
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-FASTBACK-22231
B-J auction deceptive description. What a surprise!
Actually for a decent modified Shelby GT500 price, it would be a nasty boulevard blaster. The unfortunate part comes with hyped up description leading to a grossly inflated result and the let down when the car is judged by SAAC experts at a show that have to reveal the true history to the previously uninformed owner. 8)
The footnote in the SAAC ('67 Shelby) Registry on this car seems pretty clear on this car.
Quote from: owenkelley on January 07, 2020, 10:08:36 PM
It's this one, sold at BJ in 2004. the first one I ever saw bring a bunch of money at BJ......
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-FASTBACK-22231
Wow!! $286K!
Quote from: Shelby_r_b on January 07, 2020, 11:22:13 PM
Quote from: owenkelley on January 07, 2020, 10:08:36 PM
It's this one, sold at BJ in 2004. the first one I ever saw bring a bunch of money at BJ......
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-FASTBACK-22231
Wow!! $286K!
Different times back then for sure.
@JD what does the actual registry say? I only have the 1997 here
Quote from: JD on January 07, 2020, 10:31:10 PM
The footnote in the SAAC ('67 Shelby) Registry on this car seems pretty clear on this car.
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Looks good in black
Maybe they just forgot go mention the 427 on the original invoice ?
Quote from: Bigfoot on January 08, 2020, 10:19:10 AM
Looks good in black
Yes it does. Makes them look smaller I think.
Caution fan sticker and side stripes incorrectly applied. Oye-yi-yi!
Quote from: Bigfoot on January 08, 2020, 10:19:10 AM
Looks good in black
. Especially with the contrasting white "skunk stripes".My black 67 has gold stripes and you just don't get that "pop"....
Quote from: Don Johnston on January 07, 2020, 10:11:36 PM
B-J auction deceptive description. What a surprise!
Actually for a decent modified Shelby GT500 price, it would be a nasty boulevard blaster. The unfortunate part comes with hyped up description leading to a grossly inflated result and the let down when the car is judged by SAAC experts at a show that have to reveal the true history to the previously uninformed owner. 8)
One of the worst feelings I can have is when I have to break the news to a uninformed buyer/owner that the car was not as original as he/she thought. Another unfortunate aspect not typically thought about is the push back when the truth is revealed ;) . I have had people accuse me of not knowing what I was taking about or other choice words because some expert ,dealer or book writer said otherwise. Shoot the messenger comes to mind. I always try to share info in a truthful but sensitive way on the show field . When ASKED off the show field should you be honest or just polite is always in the back of my mind . Of course if you are paid to do a evaluation you HAVE to give the unvarnished truth. Most of the times those people although disappointed are appreciative. Last thing in the world I would want to do is diminish the enthusiasm ,embarrass, or just make feel bad a fellow Shelby enthusiast . The show offs and braggarts not so much but still even them :D .
People get angry when they are embarrassed and lash out.An easily avoided problem if they do their due diligence (Or have the sense to hire an expert if they are "in over their head" ...or just plain lazy)Making a major purchase like this is never something to embark on "unprepared".Dumb to be "penny wise and pound foolish"IMHO
yep I do feel for u Bob and all the others that try to help and are given so much grief, lucky for us your love of the cars and judging gives u more pleasure to over look the bad. At times u may feel it just isn't worth it. I for one am glad u and the others stay in the game.
I appreciate how you share your knowledge Mr.Gaines.
It isn't always easy to express attitude in print. It can often be misuderstood.
I've had people approach me privately and ask questions that are so technically specific that I tell them, "you need to ask Bob that?" I don't get the response, "that SOB! He's got some attitude!" very often anymore. :o
I say "no, you misunderstand him. When he tells you "that's all I'm going to tell you on that, you have to figure the rest out yourself", it just means he's tired and needs a nap now. He'll get back to you later.... or maybe not?" ;D
At MECUM last week, A person (not sure if he was the owner or not) was expounding how original and correct a particular Shelby was, and as the air cleaner was removed (car was a "no-start", with fuel being administered) I leaned in to look, and was dragged into the "dog-and-pony-show" of "what-do-ya-see"? Everything is right on this one,........... right! Attempting to be amiable I responded it's a nice looking car, and moved back, but I guess that just wasn't an acceptable response and this person persisted, "it has the original carb right!, everything is right on this car, right"! I should have said I don't know, but the other onlookers who had amassed, were staring at me, trying to determine if I would confirm this persons statements or not! And, not that I should referenced for correctness validation anyway, I responded, "well..........the carburetor does have at 1972 production date", and walked away.
I'm sure at that point I wasn't appreciated (I'm generally not anyway! :'( ), and I was just hoping there wouldn't be repercussions, like a can of wax hitting me in the back of the head. ::)
Scott.
112.000$ I was leading but at the end my heart and head hit the limit. Who knows. Not a bad price for what it is.
Those TV guys were harping about the fomer owner being Huber Platt. Well bought I'd say.