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Title: Carroll Shelby
Post by: FL SAAC on September 23, 2019, 01:04:26 PM



how tall was carroll shelby ?
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: deathsled on September 23, 2019, 01:32:33 PM
In one of his interviews he said he had a spurt of growth to nearly six feet when he was 17 or so. I recall him as taller than me and I'm 5'11"
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 23, 2019, 01:34:52 PM
I'm 6'1, and he always seemed close to my height in the '80s. A bit shorter later on, but most everyone loses height as they age.
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on September 23, 2019, 02:47:55 PM
He was 6'1". I used to sit around in the Gardena, Ca tire Goodyear tire warehouse and talk with him and Lil' Joe.  I am 6'0" and he was slightly taller than I was.
Probably one of the most direct and opinionated individuals I've ever met.  You never had to second guess what he was thinking.

                                                                                           -Keith
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 23, 2019, 03:01:29 PM
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on September 23, 2019, 02:47:55 PM
He was 6'1". I used to sit around in the Gardena, Ca tire Goodyear tire warehouse and talk with him and Lil' Joe.  I am 6'0" and he was slightly taller than I was.
Probably one of the most direct and opinionated individuals I've ever met.  You never had to second guess what he was thinking.

                                                                                           -Keith

That's for sure on direct and opinionated. A conversation with him was never boring.
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: deathsled on September 23, 2019, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on September 23, 2019, 02:47:55 PM
He was 6'1". I used to sit around in the Gardena, Ca tire Goodyear tire warehouse and talk with him and Lil' Joe.  I am 6'0" and he was slightly taller than I was.
Probably one of the most direct and opinionated individuals I've ever met.  You never had to second guess what he was thinking.

                                                                                           -Keith
That is so damned cool!!!
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: rkm on September 23, 2019, 09:39:45 PM
Does anyone have any "Shelbyisms?" Like when he was trying to sue the replica companies and told us, "I just sold my chilli company and now I have enough money to take on any sonofabitch I want to".

Or, " I didn't know whether to shit or go blind".

But he sure could make stuff happen.
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 23, 2019, 09:54:46 PM
Many Most of CS's more colorful sayings can't be repeated on this forum.
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: SFM66H on September 26, 2019, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: rkm on September 23, 2019, 09:39:45 PM
Does anyone have any "Shelbyisms?" Like when he was trying to sue the replica companies and told us, "I just sold my chilli company and now I have enough money to take on any sonofabitch I want to".

Or, " I didn't know whether to shit or go blind".

But he sure could make stuff happen.

I have one - one that I'll NEVER forget...

In this photo on July 4, 1986 at SAAC 11 in Dearborn, Shelby was leaning on the core support of my car (6S1615) and said (and I quote):

"Hell son, they weren't this good new."

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/52-260919130618.jpeg)
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on September 27, 2019, 10:08:58 AM
CS was 6'1" Little Joe (Firestone's race tire guy in SoCal) was about 5'6". Both fun guys with lots of stories. When CS was doing the run of "found" Cobras Kopec sent me to photo all the new parts he had made. We took a Dodge Mini Van from his office to McClusky's. Forget his heart I was the one having a heart attack on that ride. Especially when he made a U turn across 4 lanes of traffic to stop at a Chinese place for lunch. No signal no warning - just that looks like a good place.
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: deathsled on September 27, 2019, 01:19:49 PM
^^^^^
Great story. Must have been nice to know the man on that level that, hey we're going to stop at a Chinese restaurant for lunch. Violently turns in...
My dad got some great one on one video of Carroll at Road America in 1997 or 98 when Carroll was sitting in one of his new 427 Cobras. My dad beat out the media and got to him first and asked a few questions. I have the video on a DVD. Not sure how to copy and transfer so I can post. Any suggestions on how and then I will. I have a laptop. I'll Google it.
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: Don Johnston on September 27, 2019, 01:37:31 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on September 27, 2019, 10:08:58 AM
CS was 6'1" Little Joe (Firestone's race tire guy in SoCal) was about 5'6". Both fun guys with lots of stories. When CS was doing the run of "found" Cobras Kopec sent me to photo all the new parts he had made. We took a Dodge Mini Van from his office to McClusky's. Forget his heart I was the one having a heart attack on that ride. Especially when he made a U turn across 4 lanes of traffic to stop at a Chinese place for lunch. No signal no warning - just that looks like a good place.

Little Joe was the Goodyear race tire guy in Gardena.  Shelby was a regional Goodyear distributor. 8)
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 27, 2019, 02:31:37 PM
One of the best CS comments that he ever told me about was after his heart transplant. 

When the doctor informed Carroll that he'd received a heart from a young African-American Marine, Carroll asked "Did you give me his dork too?"
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on September 27, 2019, 11:21:41 PM
Quote from: Don Johnston on September 27, 2019, 01:37:31 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on September 27, 2019, 10:08:58 AM
CS was 6'1" Little Joe (Firestone's race tire guy in SoCal) was about 5'6". Both fun guys with lots of stories. When CS was doing the run of "found" Cobras Kopec sent me to photo all the new parts he had made. We took a Dodge Mini Van from his office to McClusky's. Forget his heart I was the one having a heart attack on that ride. Especially when he made a U turn across 4 lanes of traffic to stop at a Chinese place for lunch. No signal no warning - just that looks like a good place.

Little Joe was the Goodyear race tire guy in Gardena.  Shelby was a regional Goodyear distributor. 8)
Bingo, Don.  I heard Shelby call Little Joe "short shit" quite a few times.  Shelby was never warm and fuzzy but I have to admit the lack of a filter made it hilarious sometimes and he didn't care who you were. He was really the same around everyone.
I wish I'd been around more. I did see and talk to Little Joe all the time. I worked for Chrysler Corporation for a stint waiting to go to the CHP academy post exiting military service.  Don-A-Vee Jeep Eagle was running SCORE races and Chrysler was sponsoring with parts and financial support.
Hence the reason for dealing with Little Joe and Carrol Shelby in Gardena. 
                                                                                                 -Keith
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 27, 2019, 11:32:23 PM
Keith, when was it that you were working with Don-A-Vee? They were a sponsor of the IMSA Firestone Firehawk racing team I was with...Paul Rossi Racing (Eagle Talons and Dodge Stealths)...a Chrysler-factory-sponsored multi-champion team.   We ran Pikes Peak too. I competed there in 1990.

My involvement with Rossi was 1989-94 era.
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: 6972boss on September 28, 2019, 12:41:58 AM
Cool post! I met Mr Shelby at the palm springs vintage races in 1994(?) I had my GT500  there and he walked up, noticed my engine had some oil seeping from the valve covers and head gaskets and also had rock chips all over the front end.
He looks my car over and asks,  "is this your car?" I reply yes sir, he says "looks like you drive the SOB, i like that"
In 2004 i took my GT500 to his open house in Vegas.  I got got the chance to walk with him through the show field.  I cant repeat most of the things he said but he did say this of a certain (nameless, of course) shelby mustang restorer, " that idiot couldnt pour water out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel" i lost it and had to walk away to wipe the tears from my eyes.  No filter, no worries! What a great man! Those short times are cherished.
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on September 28, 2019, 03:11:35 AM
I was with Chrysler Corp, but It was 1991. I am sure you remember the Skiltons.  Eric Holder?
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 28, 2019, 01:15:13 PM
Yes, I knew Clive.  Great to work with.  I don't recall a Eric Holder.

Who did you work with at Chrysler?  Joe Tetherow was the Chrysler PR guy out here in the '80s-'90s, then went to Toyota.   
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on September 29, 2019, 12:17:02 AM
I don't have much positive to say about Darren or Clive.  Eric was driving until Clive decided to give Darren the driver's seat.
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 29, 2019, 01:01:40 AM
We just have our own experiences to go on, and Clive was always easy for me to deal with.

Who did you work with at Chrysler?

Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: FL SAAC on September 29, 2019, 09:08:03 AM
drive them, love this guy !


Quote from: 6972boss on September 28, 2019, 12:41:58 AM
Cool post! I met Mr Shelby at the palm springs vintage races in 1994(?) I had my GT500  there and he walked up, noticed my engine had some oil seeping from the valve covers and head gaskets and also had rock chips all over the front end.
He looks my car over and asks,  "is this your car?" I reply yes sir, he says "looks like you drive the SOB, i like that"
In 2004 i took my GT500 to his open house in Vegas.  I got got the chance to walk with him through the show field.  I cant repeat most of the things he said but he did say this of a certain (nameless, of course) shelby mustang restorer, " that idiot couldnt pour water out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel" i lost it and had to walk away to wipe the tears from my eyes.  No filter, no worries! What a great man! Those short times are cherished.
Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: FL SAAC on October 01, 2019, 08:54:21 AM
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Title: Re: Carroll Shelby
Post by: FL SAAC on November 01, 2019, 08:51:34 AM
6'1'' it is thank you

Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on September 23, 2019, 02:47:55 PM
He was 6'1". I used to sit around in the Gardena, Ca tire Goodyear tire warehouse and talk with him and Lil' Joe.  I am 6'0" and he was slightly taller than I was.
Probably one of the most direct and opinionated individuals I've ever met.  You never had to second guess what he was thinking.

                                                                                           -Keith