trying to find the value of a NOS 1967 shelby deck lid and end caps in factory boxes. Boxes are dated 1968 and 1969 I have never seen a complete set for sale... I acquired them in the late 70's. I am restoring 1967 #273 and not sure if I should use the NOS parts or restore what I have.
Is the deck lid on your car #273 the early version with the metal frame underneath (I would think it is or should be) or the all fiberglass (later) version?
I'm guessing the NOS one is the all fiberglass version.
See attached Deck lid underside versions.
(Also car #11XX has the metal framed deck lid.)
it is the one with the metal insert and it has 2 spots of rust. I purchased a NOS red oxide deck lid many years ago to re skin my original... just not sure all the labor will be worth the effort
Many did rust over time, and as you've stated repairable.
The cost/effort of fixing the original vs cutting up a NOS one may not be the best. Odds are what needs fixed is the metal not the fiberglass portion so you may want to focus on repairing the original metal and sell the NOS one.
Is the rust towards the rear edge (tail) of the deck lid?
Yes on the edge I will not use the NOS one I was planning to use a NOS steel lid and re skin it with the original lid from the car ...
Just a thought - since the corners are bad and hidden under the fiberglass (and gasket) used to join the two pieces why not buy and cut the underside lower corners off a repro metal deck lid and weld them to the original and sell the NOS all metal standard Mustang deck lid?
I could ...I think when I get to that point I will see how bad the edges are i also have several used deck lids that I could use to do what you are recommending. Very good idea thank you... do you have any idea what the nos all fiberglass lid is worth? i see end caps quite frequently. just not sure on the deck lid itself... thanks for your assistance.
Sounds like you have a good plan.
Sorry, I'm not the best at pricing items. Hopefully others will chime-in on the value of the 2 NOS deck lids you have (Shelby all fiberglass and Mustang standard all steel)
I think 1817 should be all 'glass.
He stated he was restoring #0273.
JD had plenty of great input here.
Here is mine: 1) it is not unusual for the metal underlined hood and deck to "delaminate". So, you grind around the outside bottom to remove the rusted metal Mustang factory stamping. 2) Do the same to the original Mustang deck lid. Except you do grind along just the outside (removing the "fold"). 3) you'll need a long flat stock the reach in and carefully pry the deck lid top off off the deck lid botton due to the glue/sealer Ford used inside to prevent rattles 4) do treat the underside of the freshly removed Mustang deck lid as you will see, Fomoco didn't think about these car lasting 50 plus years. There is often NO paint in there. It will be rusty. 5) Glass the two back together. Be careful of dripping fiberglass resin in those areas seen between the cross bracing. 6) the hood is harder to do and is difficult to fit properly at the front corners.
Having said this, folks can do the same thing with their hoods if needed.
And, if you own a early "metal underlined" hood/deck Shelby, you might want to figure out a way to shoot some coating up between the parts to prevent rust like this. Unless it is already too late.
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 19, 2019, 09:42:15 AM
I think 1817 should be all 'glass.
That is if 1817 in the OP's avatar is referring to a 67 Shelby VIN. If it is I would agree that 1817 would be way too late in production to expect to see a steel innerstructure trunk or hood that was installed from the factory . Would the OP please confirm the Shelby VIN of the car in question needing the steel innerstructure trunklid?
Quote from: shelby1817 on June 19, 2019, 07:46:00 AM
trying to find the value of a NOS 1967 shelby deck lid and end caps in factory boxes. Boxes are dated 1968 and 1969 I have never seen a complete set for sale... I acquired them in the late 70’s. I am restoring 1967 #273 and not sure if I should use the NOS parts or restore what I have.
Sigh.......
Quote from: roddster on June 19, 2019, 10:10:30 AM
Quote from: shelby1817 on June 19, 2019, 07:46:00 AM
trying to find the value of a NOS 1967 shelby deck lid and end caps in factory boxes. Boxes are dated 1968 and 1969 I have never seen a complete set for sale... I acquired them in the late 70's. I am restoring 1967 #273 and not sure if I should use the NOS parts or restore what I have.
Sigh.......
+1 (I think the "1817" is his "handle" and references another year car - but verification can't hurt)
roddster thank you for your input if you look at the pic you will see the car was Zibarted white plastic plug when new and it still rusted
the deck lid is on #273 (steel frame which i am refering to) but yes i also own 1817 (which has fiberglass)
Quote from: roddster on June 19, 2019, 10:10:30 AM
Quote from: shelby1817 on June 19, 2019, 07:46:00 AM
trying to find the value of a NOS 1967 shelby deck lid and end caps in factory boxes. Boxes are dated 1968 and 1969 I have never seen a complete set for sale... I acquired them in the late 70's. I am restoring 1967 #273 and not sure if I should use the NOS parts or restore what I have.
Sigh.......
Hey! Give it a rest! We're old. Well I am anyway. You're got to be careful about avitars. They can get you in deep trouble.
Other seemingly innocent remarks as well.
I had a female friend ask me how it was here. I said I've got 8 inches. Well...I was referring to the snow but heck if she took it the wrong way then...ok! 8)
Cuidado....
And here we are, again, with out answering the original question. What is the value of the boxed deck lid and end caps?
My answer is this. It is whatever somebody will pay that coincides with what ever the owner will sell it for.
Having said that, I've noticed over the late years on Ebay some folks selling used yet original (they say) hoods for a price more than $10,000 (!). Would I pay that? Depends on how bad I needed it. How much I have to spend on it. How much I'm will to spend on a project.
So, all I'd say value-wise is set a price high enough to make the owner happy. And watch out for the low ballers.
Quote from: shelby1817 on June 19, 2019, 11:06:02 AM
roddster thank you for your input if you look at the pic you will see the car was Zibarted white plastic plug when new and it still rusted
the deck lid is on #273 (steel frame which i am refering to) but yes i also own 1817 (which has fiberglass)
I will never Zibart my Vehicle, My mom had a NEW just off the Ship in Jacksonville 1981 Datsun 280ZX that she had them do that to it. With in 13 Years, the Rockers, Frame Rails Door Bottoms and Rear Quarter Bottoms were rusted out so bad, I took the Car away from her. If she got hit, it would have folded like an accordion.
I don't know. I had my brand new 77 Volare wagon Ziebarted. Those were the ones the dealer was getting a $1200 warranty claim paid by Chrysler because the front fenders were rusting through. Never needed to get them fixed and I live in the Chicago rust belt.
I do know of a 67 GT350 getting Ziebarted roughly 6 years after it was new (not mine). I do not know what happened to that car.
Want to sell the NOS Deck lid and end caps but still have no idea as to their value...
More than twice the repro items...maybe that will get some comments going??
Quote from: shelby1817 on September 20, 2019, 01:01:59 PM
Want to sell the NOS Deck lid and end caps but still have no idea as to their value...
I see 10,000.00 used hood prices people are trying to get . That is pie in the sky. it is always possible that some uninformed buyer will pay a outlandish price for something but not probable. People see those prices and unrealistically think their parts are worth the same . Too many times sellers think they are leaving money on the table and let that greed keep them from selling their part IMO.That is course relative to what the seller has invested in the parts. Put them on ebay in this case with a $99 starting price over 10 days with no reserve to show all that you are serious about selling . They should bid up quickly . You will have a few that will wait until the last minute to bid which is typical. The market will determine the value. Just my opinion. Others may have different. Best of luck whatever you decide.
Ok, I'll throw out some figures for you to consider:
Almost twenty years ago, I sold a NOS 67 trunk deck (minus box) that had some correctable issues from being stored and hauled around--price then $450; two years ago I sold a good used one for $750. Do some research on what (member here) DC-DD has priced similar parts. Pair of end caps shouldn't be less than $500, in my experience/opinion.
Good luck; you have good stuff.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 20, 2019, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: shelby1817 on September 20, 2019, 01:01:59 PM
Want to sell the NOS Deck lid and end caps but still have no idea as to their value...
I see 10,000.00 used hood prices people are trying to get . That is pie in the sky. it is always possible that some uninformed buyer will pay a outlandish price for something but not probable. People see those prices and unrealistically think their parts are worth the same . Too many times sellers think they are leaving money on the table and let that greed keep them from selling their part IMO.That is course relative to what the seller has invested in the parts. Put them on ebay in this case with a $99 starting price over 10 days with no reserve to show all that you are serious about selling . They should bid up quickly . You will have a few that will wait until the last minute to bid which is typical. The market will determine the value. Just my opinion. Others may have different. Best of luck whatever you decide.
Bob must be making reference to Magmustangs and the "60's were good to me asking price" 11,999.00 must be market price in Washington state.
I think this has been offered for two years, anyway.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Shelby-Mustang-GT-350-GT-500-ORIGINAL-SHELBY-Fiberglass-FRONT-HOOD-Non-A-C/162104438650?hash=item25be2d6f7a:g:AqEAAOxy63FS4ZRp
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on September 20, 2019, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 20, 2019, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: shelby1817 on September 20, 2019, 01:01:59 PM
Want to sell the NOS Deck lid and end caps but still have no idea as to their value...
I see 10,000.00 used hood prices people are trying to get . That is pie in the sky. it is always possible that some uninformed buyer will pay a outlandish price for something but not probable. People see those prices and unrealistically think their parts are worth the same . Too many times sellers think they are leaving money on the table and let that greed keep them from selling their part IMO.That is course relative to what the seller has invested in the parts. Put them on ebay in this case with a $99 starting price over 10 days with no reserve to show all that you are serious about selling . They should bid up quickly . You will have a few that will wait until the last minute to bid which is typical. The market will determine the value. Just my opinion. Others may have different. Best of luck whatever you decide.
Bob must be making reference to Magmustangs and the "60's were good to me asking price" 11,999.00 must be market price in Washington state.
I think this has been offered for two years, anyway.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Shelby-Mustang-GT-350-GT-500-ORIGINAL-SHELBY-Fiberglass-FRONT-HOOD-Non-A-C/162104438650?hash=item25be2d6f7a:g:AqEAAOxy63FS4ZRp
Asking price.... It hasn't sold yet and has been listed for well over a year. There is a difference between "asking price" and "sold price".
Quote from: silverton_ford on September 20, 2019, 07:26:25 PM
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on September 20, 2019, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 20, 2019, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: shelby1817 on September 20, 2019, 01:01:59 PM
Want to sell the NOS Deck lid and end caps but still have no idea as to their value...
I see 10,000.00 used hood prices people are trying to get . That is pie in the sky. it is always possible that some uninformed buyer will pay a outlandish price for something but not probable. People see those prices and unrealistically think their parts are worth the same . Too many times sellers think they are leaving money on the table and let that greed keep them from selling their part IMO.That is course relative to what the seller has invested in the parts. Put them on ebay in this case with a $99 starting price over 10 days with no reserve to show all that you are serious about selling . They should bid up quickly . You will have a few that will wait until the last minute to bid which is typical. The market will determine the value. Just my opinion. Others may have different. Best of luck whatever you decide.
Bob must be making reference to Magmustangs and the "60's were good to me asking price" 11,999.00 must be market price in Washington state.
I think this has been offered for two years, anyway.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Shelby-Mustang-GT-350-GT-500-ORIGINAL-SHELBY-Fiberglass-FRONT-HOOD-Non-A-C/162104438650?hash=item25be2d6f7a:g:AqEAAOxy63FS4ZRp
Asking price.... It hasn't sold yet and has been listed for well over a year. There is a difference between "asking price" and "sold price".
That is the asking price of the deluded. I would expect Pookie to pull this and claim Carroll Shelby himself installed it and it still has his DNA description.
I have bought off and on for years from Andrew at Mags. His Ebay responses and deliberate misleading descriptions puts him on par with Pookie, Freddie.
I find it tragic that it's about gouging and half the time they don't even realize parts are available as quality reproductions.
There are few bolts that AMK doesn't offer. Why would I spend 20.00 for a bolt and still have to worry about refinishing it?
I just don't have time for parts pirates anymore. They are going to make themselves extinct.
-Keith
There was a discussion in another post about what the inside of the hood should look like. While this one is a little over the top, i.e., extreme, it isn't very far from what they originally looked like.
I would say it would sell for around 5. The trunk lid, I'd say is worth 15 hundred.