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The Cars => 1967 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: 67 GT350 on March 28, 2019, 11:36:11 AM

Title: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: 67 GT350 on March 28, 2019, 11:36:11 AM
 have a GT350 with air, can I ad a Paxton supercharger to it? I would have to be installed on the passenger side. Is there a way to do this?
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 28, 2019, 12:00:24 PM
Quote from: Frankie on March 28, 2019, 11:36:11 AM
have a GT350 with air, can I ad a Paxton supercharger to it? I would have to be installed on the passenger side. Is there a way to do this?
I suppose where they is a will there is a way. I am not sure the blower on a 67 GT350 air car(and retaining the air) is a prudent choice all things considered.Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: FL SAAC on March 28, 2019, 01:30:29 PM

+ 1
Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 28, 2019, 12:00:24 PM
Quote from: Frankie on March 28, 2019, 11:36:11 AM
I suppose where they is a will there is a way. I am not sure the blower on a 67 GT350 air car(and retaining the air) is a prudent choice all things considered.Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: 2112 on March 28, 2019, 01:34:06 PM
You could add a Thermactor system for some real fun while you are at it.

Joking of course.   ;D
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: Coralsnake on March 28, 2019, 03:37:29 PM
If Tim could do both on a big block, a GT350 should be a snap
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: Chris Thauberger on March 28, 2019, 04:23:36 PM
These cars were meant to be driven. It's your car to personalize anyway you see fit. If you want a blower on an air-conditioned GT 350 then get on it. Please post lots of pictures I'm sure there are many here that would be curious to see this done.

Chris
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: shelbydoug on March 28, 2019, 04:53:10 PM
There was a guy here did it about 15 years ago. Walter something. He was part owner of a tire distributorship in Elmsford, NY. Car was Presidential blue, 4 speed.
It all fit in nicely. I never heard it run though but saw it about a dozen times at his shop.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: Bigfoot on March 28, 2019, 05:40:37 PM
Fran
First question,... are you using the air or plant to?....
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: Coralsnake on March 28, 2019, 05:45:54 PM
Im thinking you biggest hurdle eill be right handed paxton bracketry, good luck!
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: shelbydoug on March 29, 2019, 07:31:55 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 28, 2019, 05:45:54 PM
Im thinking you biggest hurdle eill be right handed paxton bracketry, good luck!

At some point there was a right hand mount made. I don't know if it was just a "one off" custom fabrication or if there were a few made and "kept on the shelf"? It was a while ago. Maybe 30 years ago and in the mean time Cobra Automotive did the dual Paxton set up for the FE's.

Two places to check with. Paradise Wheels and Cobra Automotive. I'd take an educated guess and say that likely either will make a set up for you. Not to worry. ;D
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: tinman on March 29, 2019, 08:30:59 AM
Could you use/modify a fox mustang bracket? They mount the blower on the right side.
Mike
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: 557 on March 29, 2019, 10:14:05 AM
Save space with.....wait for it....nitrous...
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: roddster on March 29, 2019, 10:22:36 AM
 Its what hot roodders do.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: GT350DAVE on March 29, 2019, 12:22:18 PM
It might be easier to mount the AC compressor on the other side.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: terlingua11 on March 29, 2019, 12:33:03 PM
I'd talk to Craig-

http://paradisewheels.biz
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: 67 GT350 on March 29, 2019, 02:35:22 PM
Just emailed them.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: TLea on March 29, 2019, 08:34:17 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 28, 2019, 03:37:29 PM
If Tim could do both on a big block, a GT350 should be a snap
Yup I can be done. I think I would contact Craig Conley and ask him if he's ever done it first of all  As far as being "prudent", maybe maybe not but it sure would be a lot of fun and a nice car to drive.  I have a Paxton powered 350 but I wish I had air conditioning in the car.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: zray on March 30, 2019, 09:10:54 AM
Quote from: GT350DAVE on March 29, 2019, 12:22:18 PM
It might be easier to mount the AC compressor on the other side.

thats the way I've seen it done most of the time (yes, others have gone down that road).  I have one photo of the Paxton on the passenger side, but the carb enclosure is hacked to hell, imho.

Umm: 

(https://i.imgur.com/uZiorFN.jpg)

Ugh:

(https://i.imgur.com/DlvNY2t.jpg)


Z
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: shelbydoug on March 30, 2019, 10:48:16 AM
Well don't tell anyone but there were some right hand air boxes made.

Personally I'd call Curt Voght and ask him about a '65 COBRA prototype air box with right side entry.

Years ago he made a duplicate of the factory prototype box out of billet aluminum. If you saw it, you'd go that route.

I think Ford went on the drivers side with the compressor because the right side was too close to the battery?
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: FL SAAC on March 30, 2019, 10:48:52 AM
Quote from: Frankie on March 29, 2019, 02:35:22 PM
Just emailed them.

like nike says...just do it !    life is short, meant to be driven...
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: pbf777 on April 01, 2019, 07:43:14 PM
Quote from: tinman on March 29, 2019, 08:30:59 AM
Could you use/modify a fox mustang bracket? They mount the blower on the right side.
Mike

     This would probably be where I would start, knowing that modifications will be necessary if only for the pulley offset alignment, these being mostly stanchions, utilization or unavailability of other accessory bolt hole and bosses particularly of the water pump housing and removal of the lower section intended for the air-pump installation.      ???

     Similarly, the Studebaker's with the R2 option engine (the other 289 cu. in. engine with Paxton supercharging) also were sans air conditioning, you had to choose,......... pressurized hot air for the engine, or cold air blowing in your face, but not both!      ;D

     Scott.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: shelbydoug on April 01, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
Quote from: pbf777 on April 01, 2019, 07:43:14 PM
Quote from: tinman on March 29, 2019, 08:30:59 AM
Could you use/modify a fox mustang bracket? They mount the blower on the right side.
Mike

     This would probably be where I would start, knowing that modifications will be necessary if only for the pulley offset alignment, these being mostly stanchions, utilization or unavailability of other accessory bolt hole and bosses particularly of the water pump housing and removal of the lower section intended for the air-pump installation.      ???

     Similarly, the Studebaker's with the R2 option engine (the other 289 cu. in. engine with Paxton supercharging) also were sans air conditioning, you had to choose,......... pressurized hot air for the engine, or cold air blowing in your face, but not both!      ;D

     Scott.

If you have a Smithy 3 in 1, you can mill any bracket you want out of a chunk of billet aluminum.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: zray on April 01, 2019, 08:46:35 PM
I do t see any convincing argument put forth that makes me want to put the blower on the passenger side. If the whole point is wanting to use a vintage Paxton, cutting up the stock Paxton air box leaves the whole engine bay lookng like crap. Whaereas having the a/c on the passenger side is just going to take longer a/c lines. That's all.

Z
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: Bigfoot on April 01, 2019, 10:53:57 PM
^^
This
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: shelbydoug on April 02, 2019, 08:43:10 AM
Quote from: zray on April 01, 2019, 08:46:35 PM
I do t see any convincing argument put forth that makes me want to put the blower on the passenger side. If the whole point is wanting to use a vintage Paxton, cutting up the stock Paxton air box leaves the whole engine bay lookng like crap. Whaereas having the a/c on the passenger side is just going to take longer a/c lines. That's all.

Z

Shorter a/c lines on the right side. It actually fits better there. You need to drill new holes in the radiator support though to run the lines through on that side. If you put the battery in the trunk, it's even a better fit.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: roddster on April 02, 2019, 09:50:47 AM
  The issue, for some of us, is using the modern Sanden compressor versus the vintage style York one.  I like the vintage look.
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: 427heaven on April 02, 2019, 09:54:08 AM
^^^^^ Agreed... Use old or new look, DONT MIX AND MATCH- :-[
Title: Re: Air condition and supercharged
Post by: pbf777 on April 02, 2019, 11:48:38 AM
Quote from: zray on April 01, 2019, 08:46:35 PM
If the whole point is wanting to use a vintage Paxton, cutting up the stock Paxton air box leaves the whole engine bay lookng like crap.
Z

     If not accomplished with some finesse agreed; but myself, realizing that this is a non original installation, and I never really liked the appearance of the carburetor enclosure anyway, I would utilize a "blow-thru" configuration with the "hat" or duct adapter just over the carburetor inlet.  And, for reference one can look-up the other 289 Paxton configuration of the Studebaker R2 as installed in the Avanti.    ;)

      Scott