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Title: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: Hockeylife on November 30, 2018, 02:25:38 PM
Subject says it all? Is it easy to tell? Thanks
Title: Re: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: davez on November 30, 2018, 05:01:48 PM
That looks like its been replaced with a one piece floor pan. Mig weld type welds where the spot welds are at the base of the fire wall/ toe boards. Don't see any factory type pinch welds where the seat pans would be welded in. More mig type burns where the shifter bezel reinf is. Plus someone pre painted it grey / silver before installing. there's no paint on any other rails / original structure. Doesn't look like bad work but I don't believe it's the original floors
Title: Re: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: Bob Gaines on November 30, 2018, 05:28:41 PM
Quote from: davez on November 30, 2018, 05:01:48 PM
That looks like its been replaced with a one piece floor pan. Mig weld type welds where the spot welds are at the base of the fire wall/ toe boards. Don't see any factory type pinch welds where the seat pans would be welded in. More mig type burns where the shifter bezel reinf is. Plus someone pre painted it grey / silver before installing. there's no paint on any other rails / original structure. Doesn't look like bad work but I don't believe it's the original floors
+1. Missing spot welds all over.  The floor pan metal is not a tight fit to frame rails and crossmember like it typically is also.
Title: Re: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: Hockeylife on December 01, 2018, 10:37:47 AM
Thanks, the following floor pics have a difference in a rib pointing to the frame rail. One has it, the other does not. Also ribs seem flatter on 1 versus the other.
So my question, do either of these indicate an original Ford floor?
Title: Re: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: JD on December 01, 2018, 10:55:51 AM
^^Have noted this too - there does seem to be variations in the floor panel(s) stampings over the course of the production year.

can you tell/share the green car number shown above?

Title: Re: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: gt350shelb on December 01, 2018, 02:08:20 PM
67 has date code on inside under rear seat
Title: Re: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: roddster on December 01, 2018, 06:15:00 PM
  On reply #3:  I'd expect to some or many more paint drips.  None showing in the photos.
Title: Re: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: lawrence67 on December 01, 2018, 10:11:57 PM
Quite certain 1935's floors are original but the date stamping under rear seat is a new one on me.  I know some of this kind of info isn't aways broadcast but is it possible to pm me the approx. location and whether stamped from inside or out. Would save some research time investigating.  Inside seems more logical but that wasn't always a factor at manufacturing level.
Paul
Title: Re: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: Hockeylife on December 01, 2018, 10:29:09 PM
Quote from: JD on December 01, 2018, 10:55:51 AM
^^Have noted this too - there does seem to be variations in the floor panel(s) stampings over the course of the production year.

can you tell/share the green car number shown above?

3114
Title: Re: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: GT350DAVE on December 02, 2018, 02:05:03 PM
I owned an original 67 built around the same date and it had the additional impressions behind the frame rails.
Dave
Title: Re: 67 floorboards - how to identify original from repro?
Post by: J_Speegle on December 02, 2018, 11:01:25 PM
Quote from: Hockeylife on December 01, 2018, 10:29:09 PM
Quote from: JD on December 01, 2018, 10:55:51 AM
^^Have noted this too - there does seem to be variations in the floor panel(s) stampings over the course of the production year.

can you tell/share the green car number shown above?

3114

Very late car  so it would have the late floor pan design. You can get down to a fairly exact change over date for this detail at San Jose that year but your example would not be anywhere near that date. And there are other details also ;)